@Stucifer said in League General Discussion Thread:
I posted this in the strategy discussion thread, I published a video going over my J2 strategy a couple days ago and a new video today discussing PTV changes from OOB.
J2 Strategy video:
https://youtu.be/0JK0TXDrYGY?si=U_sTL42aK_FfuH4jIntroduction to PTV:
https://youtu.be/YPJ_I0qxGBU?si=bYbZHALTBa0n49-e
This is great, thanks for putting this together!
I’m hardly a top player, but I think it’s due to an overall improvement in the play of the league over the years.
@AndrewAAGamer has an excellent series of articles educating players, which is a great starting point.
Also, the interviews conducted by @crockett36 with Andrew and other top players is great info.
Any of the OOB finals or semi-finals over the last 2-3 years would be good study material.
Agree, this is the jumping in point for new online players, so adhering to the standard rules as much as reasonably possible to make a “fair” game will make the transition easier. Plus the tactics will translate directly to improve over the board play. I think the current bid mechanics do that well.
BM and PTV are the variants to explore rule changes, and more dramatic map/rule changes respectively.
@peirce said in Post League Game Results Here:
@axis-dominion Love all of this dialogue here!If you’re formally resigning the game, happy to re-do that battle with LL on (for that battle), and see where it takes us. I’m new to the Forum, of course, and very new to PTV, but I’ve been playing BM for many years, and I really like the PTV map. Happy to put my
By posting here, I think @axis-domination DID resign the game - did I miss something? Most people post something like “so-and-so wins, will played”, but it seems in the heat of the moment this did not occur. :)
BTW, here are the entire dice stats. The TOTAL dice rolls look entire fair. However the distribution for Axis rolls is skewed slightly lower, and Allies slightly higher. What can you do - it’s a random number generator, given enough rolls it will start to look fair for each power, but will vary slightly with low sample size.
I believe someone did try playing a large bid to China. Not sure, but I think it was @Arthur-Bomber-Harris vs @AndrewAAGamer
I suspect there is a lot of game play/strategy differences that come into play for someone to win as Axis against a ~60 Allies bid.
Maybe the best way to balance is to play 2 games, flipping sides with the same bid. Of course, dice luck can also come into play, so not a perfect measure.
Have enjoyed all my games in the League. Learning lots each match, plenty of room for growth as well! Thx for the games @simon33
Sorry to hear, condolences to you and your family. You were the first person to play a game with me on these forums. We’ll miss having you around.
Great hype posts! Happy to be in the playoffs amongst all these legends. Having been smashed numerous times, and also being from the same state as General Disarray, I will not be surprised if he takes at least 1 of these championships!
Thanks guys for taking a look!
After the disastrous G1, against someone of Farmboy’s caliber, my thinking was this game was effectively over. I think overall France was at +7 hits after turn 2, which was ridiculous.
I went full “risk on” for J1, as I had nothing to lose at that point. Got lucky on several key coin flips (mainly attacking the Anzac DD and Transport), so the game continued on!
German was severely hampered though, having lost all art and mechs in France. I think the “avg” outcome is to lose 7 infantry with an all ground attack.
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 6
Purchase Units - Japanese
Japanese buy 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 10 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;
Combat Move - Japanese
2 infantry moved from Kyushu to 7 Sea Zone
2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from 5 Sea Zone to Siberia
2 artilleries moved from Japan to 7 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from Kyushu to 7 Sea Zone
2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 7 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 27 Sea Zone to 28 Sea Zone
1 battleship moved from 7 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
1 marine moved from Wake Island to 24 Sea Zone
1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 24 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 marine moved from 27 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
1 infantry moved from Gilbert Islands to 33 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Marshall Islands to 33 Sea Zone
2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from 27 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Midway to 25 Sea Zone
1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 25 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 27 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Shan State
1 transport moved from 132 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
1 artillery moved from French Indo China to 37 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from French Indo China to 37 Sea Zone
1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone
1 artillery moved from 132 Sea Zone to Malaya
1 infantry moved from 132 Sea Zone to Malaya
1 submarine moved from 132 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
3 tactical_bombers moved from 132 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
3 tactical_bombers moved from French Indo China to Malaya
1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Shan State
1 infantry moved from Hopei to Szechwan
Japanese take Szechwan from Chinese
2 fighters moved from French Indo China to 43 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from Siam to 43 Sea Zone
1 bomber moved from French Indo China to 45 Sea Zone
Combat - Japanese
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 6
Research Technology - Germans
Purchase Units - Germans
Germans buy 1 armour, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor, 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Germans
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Poland
1 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
1 mech_infantry moved from Germany to Poland
1 armour moved from Germany to Poland
1 armour moved from Vologda to Yaroslavl
Germans take Yaroslavl from Russians
1 armour moved from Yaroslavl to Smolensk
Germans take Smolensk from Russians
1 armour moved from Vologda to Archangel
Germans take Archangel from Russians
1 armour moved from Archangel to Karelia
Germans take Karelia from Russians
4 infantry moved from Leningrad to Vyborg
1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Vyborg
1 tactical_bomber moved from 116 Sea Zone to Vyborg
1 transport moved from 93 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 113 Sea Zone
1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Norway
1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 90 Sea Zone
Combat - Germans
Battle in Norway
Battle in 90 Sea Zone
Germans attack with 1 fighter
Americans defend with 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport
1 infantry owned by the Americans, 1 transport owned by the Americans and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Americans lost in 90 Sea Zone
Germans win, taking Norway from British with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport
Battle in Poland
Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
Russians defend with 1 marine
Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Poland, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.17 expected hits
Russians roll dice for 1 marine in Poland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 marine owned by the Russians lost in Poland
Germans win, taking Poland from Russians with 1 armour, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
Casualties for Russians: 1 marine
Battle in Vyborg
Germans attack with 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
Russians defend with 1 mech_infantry
Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Vyborg, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 1.83 expected hits
Russians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Vyborg, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians lost in Vyborg
Germans win, taking Vyborg from Russians with 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
Casualties for Russians: 1 mech_infantry
Non Combat Move - Germans
1 armour moved from Leningrad to Karelia
3 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Leningrad to Smolensk
3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Smolensk
1 mech_infantry moved from Baltic States to Smolensk
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Ukraine
1 fighter moved from Vyborg to Leningrad
1 tactical_bomber moved from Vyborg to Leningrad
1 fighter moved from 90 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 115 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 115 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
3 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Northern Belarus
1 submarine moved from 128 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 116 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from 116 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
1 carrier moved from 116 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
1 armour moved from Baltic States to Smolensk
1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Vologda
1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Leningrad
2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Novgorod to Smolensk
1 mech_infantry moved from Vologda to Smolensk
1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Smolensk
1 mech_infantry moved from Vologda to Karelia
1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Northern Belarus
1 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
Place Units - Germans
1 factory_minor placed in Leningrad
3 infantry placed in Ukraine
1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
1 infantry placed in Western Germany
1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 115 Sea Zone
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Changing ownership of Tambov from Russians to Germans
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Turn Complete - Germans
Germans collect 57 PUs; end with 57 PUs
Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 Optional[PUs]; end with 60 Optional[PUs]
Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 Optional[PUs]; end with 65 Optional[PUs]
Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 68 PUs
Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -0.67
Germans regular : 1.00
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 16
Purchase Units - Japanese
Japanese buy 1 artillery, 2 infantry, 6 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;
Combat Move - Japanese
Non Combat Move - Japanese
2 armour, 9 artilleries, 21 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from West India to Eastern Persia
1 mech_infantry moved from India to Eastern Persia
2 armour moved from Burma to West India
2 mech_infantrys moved from India to Eastern Persia
1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Shan State to French Indo China
1 mech_infantry moved from Kweichow to French Indo China
5 mech_infantrys moved from Burma to French Indo China
2 armour moved from Burma to French Indo China
1 armour moved from Burma to West India
1 armour moved from Burma to French Indo China
1 bomber, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from India to French Indo China
1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Korea to 6 Sea Zone
2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Japan
1 aaGun moved from 6 Sea Zone to Japan
1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 15 infantry moved from Manchuria to Korea
Place Units - Japanese
1 transport placed in 39 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in India
1 infantry placed in French Indo China
6 submarines placed in 6 Sea Zone
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from French Indo China: 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to India: 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Turn Complete - Japanese
Japanese collect 51 PUs; end with 51 PUs
Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 56 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
I miscalculated on my build, and swapped 2 inf for a sub after the fact. Can reverse it back if you prefer, no problem.
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 16
Research Technology - Germans
Purchase Units - Germans
Germans repair damage of 4x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 96 PUs;
Germans buy 3 artilleries, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 10 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 3 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Germans
2 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone
2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from 86 Sea Zone to Brazil
1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Volgograd to Northwest Persia
1 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria
Germans take Bulgaria from Americans
2 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Yugoslavia
1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Yugoslavia
1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Yugoslavia
Combat - Germans
Battle in Brazil
Battle in Yugoslavia
Germans attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
British defend with 1 infantry
Germans roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.67 expected hits
British roll dice for 1 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the British lost in Yugoslavia
Germans win, taking Brazil from British, taking Yugoslavia from British with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for British: 1 infantry
Battle in Northwest Persia
Germans attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
Russians defend with 1 infantry
Germans roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Northwest Persia, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits
British roll dice for 1 infantry in Northwest Persia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Northwest Persia
Germans win, taking Northwest Persia from British with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Non Combat Move - Germans
2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northwest Persia to Volgograd
1 fighter moved from Yugoslavia to Southern Italy
1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Yugoslavia to Western Germany
1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Norway
2 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Norway
2 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 12 submarines moved from 91 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
15 mech_infantrys moved from Romania to Ukraine
6 armour moved from Romania to Ukraine
3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Volgograd to Caucasus
1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Tambov to Volgograd
3 mech_infantrys moved from Russia to Ukraine
10 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
1 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
Place Units - Germans
3 artilleries placed in Volgograd
3 mech_infantrys placed in Russia
3 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
1 submarine placed in 93 Sea Zone
2 infantry placed in Western Germany
5 infantry placed in Germany
1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines placed in 112 Sea Zone
Germans undo move 4.
1 submarine placed in 112 Sea Zone
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Southern Italy: 1 fighter
EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Western Germany: 1 fighter
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Germany: 4 infantry
EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 93 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Southern France: 2 infantry
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Turn Complete - Germans
Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,4,6,5,2,5,1,5,1,2,6,6,3,2,2,1,3,2,2,1,5,6,3,4,3,4
Germans collect 75 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 75 PUs
Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 80 PUs
Objective Germans 6 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 82 PUs
Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 87 PUs
Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 15 PUs; end with 102 PUs
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Western Germany: 1 fighter
EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 112 Sea Zone: 1 fighter
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Norway: 1 tactical_bomber
EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 112 Sea Zone: 1 tactical_bomber
EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 112 Sea Zone: 1 fighter
EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Norway: 1 fighter
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : -0.50
British regular : -0.67
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 15
Purchase Units - Italians
Italians buy 2 fighters and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;
Combat Move - Italians
2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
1 artillery moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
Combat - Italians
Battle in Northern Italy
Italians attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
British defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
Italians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Northern Italy, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
British roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Italy, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the British lost in Northern Italy
Italians win, taking Northern Italy from British with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for British: 1 infantry
Non Combat Move - Italians
1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Southern Italy
1 submarine moved from 92 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 3 submarines moved from 91 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
Place Units - Italians
2 fighters placed in Southern Italy
1 transport placed in 95 Sea Zone
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Southern Italy: 1 fighter
EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Normandy Bordeaux: 1 fighter
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Turn Complete - Italians
Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 7
Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,1,2,2,2,1,2,4,6,4,5,4,3,4,1,5,6,1,5,1,1,3,1,5,4,2
Italians collect 14 PUs (7 lost to blockades); end with 16 PUs
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Yakut S.S.R.: 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Buryatia: 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : 0.67
British regular : -0.33
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 5
Purchase Units - Italians
Italians buy 1 airfield, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Italians
1 unit repaired.
1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
1 fighter moved from Alexandria to Trans-Jordan
1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Trans-Jordan
3 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Trans-Jordan
Combat - Italians
Battle in Trans-Jordan
Italians attack with 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 1 infantry
British defend with 1 infantry
Italians roll dice for 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 1 infantry in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.67 expected hits
British roll dice for 1 infantry in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Trans-Jordan
1 infantry owned by the British lost in Trans-Jordan
Italians win with 1 bomber and 4 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
Casualties for British: 1 infantry
Non Combat Move - Italians
1 bomber and 4 fighters moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
1 aaGun, 2 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov
1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Ukraine
2 infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya
1 battleship moved from 93 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
Place Units - Italians
1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 97 Sea Zone
1 infantry placed in Southern Italy
1 airfield placed in Gibraltar
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Rostov: 1 aaGun
EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Ukraine: 1 aaGun
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Turn Complete - Italians
Italians collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs
Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 22 PUs
Objective Italians 3 North Africa Control: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 27 PUs
Objective Italians 5 Control Convoy Lanes: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 30 PUs
Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 35 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : -1.67
British regular : 0.67
No scramble in 97.
Yes Intercept in Volgograd
Yes, if I could have picked any transport to survive, it would have been that one - lol.
You’re leaving me with a prickly situation in the Pacific though. Nice combos with US/UK.