@Stucifer said in League General Discussion Thread:
I posted this in the strategy discussion thread, I published a video going over my J2 strategy a couple days ago and a new video today discussing PTV changes from OOB.
J2 Strategy video:
https://youtu.be/0JK0TXDrYGY?si=U_sTL42aK_FfuH4jIntroduction to PTV:
https://youtu.be/YPJ_I0qxGBU?si=bYbZHALTBa0n49-e
This is great, thanks for putting this together!
Agree, this is the jumping in point for new online players, so adhering to the standard rules as much as reasonably possible to make a “fair” game will make the transition easier. Plus the tactics will translate directly to improve over the board play. I think the current bid mechanics do that well.
BM and PTV are the variants to explore rule changes, and more dramatic map/rule changes respectively.
@peirce said in Post League Game Results Here:
@axis-dominion Love all of this dialogue here!If you’re formally resigning the game, happy to re-do that battle with LL on (for that battle), and see where it takes us. I’m new to the Forum, of course, and very new to PTV, but I’ve been playing BM for many years, and I really like the PTV map. Happy to put my
By posting here, I think @axis-domination DID resign the game - did I miss something? Most people post something like “so-and-so wins, will played”, but it seems in the heat of the moment this did not occur. :)
BTW, here are the entire dice stats. The TOTAL dice rolls look entire fair. However the distribution for Axis rolls is skewed slightly lower, and Allies slightly higher. What can you do - it’s a random number generator, given enough rolls it will start to look fair for each power, but will vary slightly with low sample size.
I suspect there is a lot of game play/strategy differences that come into play for someone to win as Axis against a ~60 Allies bid.
Maybe the best way to balance is to play 2 games, flipping sides with the same bid. Of course, dice luck can also come into play, so not a perfect measure.
Have enjoyed all my games in the League. Learning lots each match, plenty of room for growth as well! Thx for the games @simon33
Sorry to hear, condolences to you and your family. You were the first person to play a game with me on these forums. We’ll miss having you around.
Great hype posts! Happy to be in the playoffs amongst all these legends. Having been smashed numerous times, and also being from the same state as General Disarray, I will not be surprised if he takes at least 1 of these championships!
Thanks guys for taking a look!
After the disastrous G1, against someone of Farmboy’s caliber, my thinking was this game was effectively over. I think overall France was at +7 hits after turn 2, which was ridiculous.
I went full “risk on” for J1, as I had nothing to lose at that point. Got lucky on several key coin flips (mainly attacking the Anzac DD and Transport), so the game continued on!
German was severely hampered though, having lost all art and mechs in France. I think the “avg” outcome is to lose 7 infantry with an all ground attack.
Yes, hard decisions in E Poland. Glad the game is underway!
@gamerman01 said in oysteilo and mikawagunichi vs Booper and gamerman01 (allies):
I looked.
There was no reason not to travel through Romania. Please re-do your noncombat move where you can retreat to Romania.
Even though you rolled Yugo first and didn’t know any more dice results at the time, surely you would have retreated to Romania?
@Booper can jump in and protest if he wants
I’m running London and Moscow and I’m OK with allowing the travel through Romania and retreat to Romania
No problem, I’m fine with it. I didn’t understand what you were saying initially, I just thought you wanted more units in the attack on E Poland.
Sure, no problems if you are retreating to Romania, as I had assumed in my mind that is what happened!
Feel free to adjust the US NCMs if you wish - thx!
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 3
Purchase Units - Chinese
Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open
Chinese buy 3 artilleries; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Chinese
1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
Chinese take Kwangsi from Japanese
1 infantry moved from Sikang to Shensi
1 fighter moved from Sikang to Shensi
Combat - Chinese
Battle in Shensi
Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
Japanese defend with 1 artillery
Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Shensi, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Shensi, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Shensi, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Shensi, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Shensi
1 fighter owned by the Chinese retreated
Japanese win with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
Non Combat Move - Chinese
1 fighter moved from Shensi to Yunnan
Place Units - Chinese
3 artilleries placed in Yunnan
Turn Complete - Chinese
Chinese collect 5 PUs; end with 5 PUs
Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 11 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : -1.33
Japanese regular : 0.33
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 3
Purchase Units - Chinese
Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open
Chinese buy 3 artilleries; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Chinese
1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
Chinese take Kwangsi from Japanese
1 infantry moved from Sikang to Shensi
1 fighter moved from Sikang to Shensi
Combat - Chinese
Battle in Shensi
Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
Japanese defend with 1 artillery
Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Shensi, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Shensi, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Shensi, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Shensi, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Shensi
1 fighter owned by the Chinese retreated
Japanese win with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
Non Combat Move - Chinese
1 fighter moved from Shensi to Yunnan
Place Units - Chinese
3 artilleries placed in Yunnan
Turn Complete - Chinese
Chinese collect 5 PUs; end with 5 PUs
Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 11 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : -1.33
Japanese regular : 0.33
Ouch - usually my test runs end up going much better than the live run. Which has made me stop doing test runs out of superstition. :)
I believe it is resolved as ABH did official resign in the Results section.
Tough situation, but agree with what AD mentioned, that in this case explicit casualty selection is required. When it’s “obvious”, OOL like “max defense” make sense, but this was far from the case here.
Applaud both players in reacting in good sportsmanship in the aftermath.
I’m OK to proceed. We lost the version where I did the edit on Guam, so I just re-posted with the edit in now.
Thanks!
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 3
Purchase Units - Russians
Russians buy 6 artilleries and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Politics - Russians
Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese
Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Russians from Neutrality to War
Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Chinese from Neutrality to Allied
Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
Combat Move - Russians
2 infantry moved from Persia to Iraq
1 armour, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caucasus to Iraq
1 fighter and 2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
1 fighter moved from Russia to Western Ukraine
Combat - Russians
Battle in Western Ukraine
Russians attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
Germans defend with 1 infantry
Russians roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Western Ukraine
1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
Russians win, taking Western Ukraine from Germans with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Battle in Iraq
Russians attack with 1 armour, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
Neutral_Axis defend with 3 infantry
Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Iraq, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
Neutral_Axis roll dice for 3 infantry in Iraq, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Iraq
1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Axis lost in Iraq
Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Iraq, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
Neutral_Axis roll dice for 2 infantry in Iraq, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Axis lost in Iraq
Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Iraq, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
Neutral_Axis roll dice for 1 infantry in Iraq, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Axis lost in Iraq
Russians win, taking Iraq from Neutral_Axis with 1 armour, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
Casualties for Neutral_Axis: 3 infantry
Non Combat Move - Russians
1 infantry moved from Persia to 80 Sea Zone
1 tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
1 infantry moved from Volgograd to Tambov
3 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
4 infantry moved from Archangel to Vologda
2 fighters moved from Western Ukraine to Russia
4 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska
2 infantry moved from Buryatia to Amur
1 armour moved from Bryansk to Russia
1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Russia
1 submarine moved from 104 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
Place Units - Russians
6 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in Russia
Turn Complete - Russians
Russians collect 35 PUs; end with 35 PUs
Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 38 PUs
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Guam: 1 infantry
EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 21 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 0.67
Russians regular : 0.33
Neutral_Axis regular : 0.00
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 2
Purchase Units - ANZAC
ANZAC buy 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;
Combat Move - ANZAC
1 infantry moved from Egypt to Alexandria
British take Alexandria from Italians
Combat - ANZAC
Non Combat Move - ANZAC
3 fighters moved from Queensland to Malaya
1 cruiser moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from 63 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Queensland to New South Wales
1 artillery moved from Queensland to New South Wales
1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
Place Units - ANZAC
1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone
1 infantry placed in New South Wales
Turn Complete - ANZAC
ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 16 PUs
Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 21 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
GG! This was an interesting one.
I’d like a re-match, but need a break for a few weeks. Will let you know.