@Stucifer said in League General Discussion Thread:
I posted this in the strategy discussion thread, I published a video going over my J2 strategy a couple days ago and a new video today discussing PTV changes from OOB.
J2 Strategy video:
https://youtu.be/0JK0TXDrYGY?si=U_sTL42aK_FfuH4jIntroduction to PTV:
https://youtu.be/YPJ_I0qxGBU?si=bYbZHALTBa0n49-e
This is great, thanks for putting this together!
I’m hardly a top player, but I think it’s due to an overall improvement in the play of the league over the years.
@AndrewAAGamer has an excellent series of articles educating players, which is a great starting point.
Also, the interviews conducted by @crockett36 with Andrew and other top players is great info.
Any of the OOB finals or semi-finals over the last 2-3 years would be good study material.
Agree, this is the jumping in point for new online players, so adhering to the standard rules as much as reasonably possible to make a “fair” game will make the transition easier. Plus the tactics will translate directly to improve over the board play. I think the current bid mechanics do that well.
BM and PTV are the variants to explore rule changes, and more dramatic map/rule changes respectively.
@peirce said in Post League Game Results Here:
@axis-dominion Love all of this dialogue here!If you’re formally resigning the game, happy to re-do that battle with LL on (for that battle), and see where it takes us. I’m new to the Forum, of course, and very new to PTV, but I’ve been playing BM for many years, and I really like the PTV map. Happy to put my
By posting here, I think @axis-domination DID resign the game - did I miss something? Most people post something like “so-and-so wins, will played”, but it seems in the heat of the moment this did not occur. :)
BTW, here are the entire dice stats. The TOTAL dice rolls look entire fair. However the distribution for Axis rolls is skewed slightly lower, and Allies slightly higher. What can you do - it’s a random number generator, given enough rolls it will start to look fair for each power, but will vary slightly with low sample size.
I believe someone did try playing a large bid to China. Not sure, but I think it was @Arthur-Bomber-Harris vs @AndrewAAGamer
I suspect there is a lot of game play/strategy differences that come into play for someone to win as Axis against a ~60 Allies bid.
Maybe the best way to balance is to play 2 games, flipping sides with the same bid. Of course, dice luck can also come into play, so not a perfect measure.
Have enjoyed all my games in the League. Learning lots each match, plenty of room for growth as well! Thx for the games @simon33
Sorry to hear, condolences to you and your family. You were the first person to play a game with me on these forums. We’ll miss having you around.
Great hype posts! Happy to be in the playoffs amongst all these legends. Having been smashed numerous times, and also being from the same state as General Disarray, I will not be surprised if he takes at least 1 of these championships!
Thanks guys for taking a look!
After the disastrous G1, against someone of Farmboy’s caliber, my thinking was this game was effectively over. I think overall France was at +7 hits after turn 2, which was ridiculous.
I went full “risk on” for J1, as I had nothing to lose at that point. Got lucky on several key coin flips (mainly attacking the Anzac DD and Transport), so the game continued on!
German was severely hampered though, having lost all art and mechs in France. I think the “avg” outcome is to lose 7 infantry with an all ground attack.
I re-deployed a couple Chinese inf up to Kansu. Please let me know if it would have affected Italy, no problem if so.
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 6
Purchase Units - ANZAC
ANZAC buy 3 submarines; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;
Combat Move - ANZAC
1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from New South Wales to 55 Sea Zone
Combat - ANZAC
Battle in 55 Sea Zone
ANZAC attack with 1 fighter and 1 submarine
Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
ANZAC roll dice for 1 submarine in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
ANZAC roll dice for 1 fighter in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 55 Sea Zone
ANZAC win with 1 fighter and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
Non Combat Move - ANZAC
1 fighter moved from 55 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
1 cruiser and 2 submarines moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland
2 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Caucasus
Place Units - ANZAC
3 submarines placed in 62 Sea Zone
Turn Complete - ANZAC
ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 11 PUs
Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 16 PUs
Combat Move - French
Non Combat Move - French
3 infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya
1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
Turn Complete - French
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Chinese from Szechwan: 2 infantry
EDIT: Adding units owned by Chinese to Kansu: 2 infantry
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Japanese regular : -0.33
ANZAC regular : 0.17
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 6
Purchase Units - ANZAC
ANZAC buy 3 submarines; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;
Combat Move - ANZAC
1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from New South Wales to 55 Sea Zone
Combat - ANZAC
Battle in 55 Sea Zone
ANZAC attack with 1 fighter and 1 submarine
Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
ANZAC roll dice for 1 submarine in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
ANZAC roll dice for 1 fighter in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 55 Sea Zone
ANZAC win with 1 fighter and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
Non Combat Move - ANZAC
1 fighter moved from 55 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
1 cruiser and 2 submarines moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland
2 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Caucasus
Place Units - ANZAC
3 submarines placed in 62 Sea Zone
Turn Complete - ANZAC
ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 11 PUs
Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 16 PUs
Combat Move - French
Non Combat Move - French
3 infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya
1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
Turn Complete - French
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Japanese regular : -0.33
ANZAC regular : 0.17
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 6
Purchase Units - Americans
Americans buy 1 carrier, 1 fighter, 4 infantry, 2 submarines and 4 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Americans
Non Combat Move - Americans
1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to United Kingdom
1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to United Kingdom
1 carrier moved from 92 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
2 fighters moved from Western United States to 91 Sea Zone
1 bomber moved from Western United States to United Kingdom
2 mech_infantrys moved from Western United States to Central United States
1 armour and 1 artillery moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 4 carriers, 2 cruisers, 4 destroyers, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 6 submarines and 2 transports moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
1 armour and 1 artillery moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
2 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Johnston Island to 30 Sea Zone
1 carrier, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 30 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
5 fighters moved from Midway to 54 Sea Zone
1 carrier moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
3 fighters moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands
1 aaGun moved from Western United States to Central United States
1 mech_infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland
Place Units - Americans
1 carrier and 2 submarines placed in 10 Sea Zone
1 fighter placed in Western United States
4 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone
4 infantry placed in Central United States
Turn Complete - Americans
Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs
Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 62 PUs
Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs
Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs
Purchase Units - Chinese
Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
Chinese buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;
Combat Move - Chinese
1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
UK_Pacific take Burma from Japanese
1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kweichow
1 fighter moved from Sikang to Kweichow
Combat - Chinese
Battle in Kweichow
Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
Japanese defend with 1 infantry
Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kweichow
Chinese win, taking Kweichow from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
Non Combat Move - Chinese
1 fighter moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
1 infantry moved from Sikang to Szechwan
Place Units - Chinese
1 infantry placed in Szechwan
4 infantry placed in Yunnan
Turn Complete - Chinese
Chinese collect 7 PUs; end with 9 PUs
Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 15 PUs
Purchase Units - British
British buy 2 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 3 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - British
1 unit repaired.
1 armour moved from Tunisia to Libya
British take Libya from Italians
1 armour moved from Libya to Tobruk
Combat - British
Non Combat Move - British
2 infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya
1 aaGun moved from Tunisia to Libya
1 cruiser moved from 98 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
2 cruisers moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
1 battleship and 1 carrier moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Egypt
1 armour moved from Kenya to Egypt
1 artillery moved from Kenya to 72 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 72 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
1 artillery moved from 81 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan
1 cruiser moved from 72 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Finland to Norway
3 submarines moved from 125 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
2 fighters moved from Kazakhstan to Volgograd
1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Volgograd
1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
3 fighters moved from Persia to India
1 mech_infantry moved from Eire to United Kingdom
Place Units - British
1 factory_minor placed in Egypt
1 transport placed in 71 Sea Zone
2 infantry placed in Union of South Africa
2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Persia
Turn Complete - British
British collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs
Place Units - UK_Pacific
1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in India
Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
UK_Pacific collect 6 PUs; end with 6 PUs
Some Units in India change ownership: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 0.33
Japanese regular : -0.33
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 6
Combat Move - Russians
1 armour moved from Ethiopia to British Somaliland
British take British Somaliland from Italians
1 armour moved from British Somaliland to Italian Somaliland
Russians take Italian Somaliland from Italians
1 infantry moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland
Russians take Eastern Poland from Germans
Combat - Russians
Non Combat Move - Russians
2 infantry moved from Samara to Volgograd
3 infantry moved from Tambov to Volgograd
3 infantry moved from Rostov to Volgograd
1 aaGun moved from Rostov to Volgograd
1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Tobruk to Egypt
Turn Complete - Russians
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Brutal 3rd round. Only got 3 of 22 on my “2s”. My 3’s also seriously underperformed all battle.
You had a crazy good first round when your 2s hit for 50%.
Congrats. My battles calcs had the TUV of that fight in the -60-70 range.
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 12
Research Technology - Germans
Purchase Units - Germans
Germans buy 16 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Germans
2 infantry moved from Karelia to Finland
2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Finland
1 bomber moved from Novgorod to Archangel
2 fighters moved from Western Germany to Norway
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Norway
1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
2 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Norway
1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
1 bomber moved from Novgorod to Finland
1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Norway
1 bomber moved from Novgorod to Archangel
1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Volgograd
Germans take Volgograd from Russians
1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Caucasus
Germans take Caucasus from Russians
1 mech_infantry moved from Novgorod to Finland
Combat - Germans
Battle in Holland Belgium
Germans attack with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
British defend with 1 infantry
Germans roll dice for 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.50 expected hits
British roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the British lost in Holland Belgium
Germans win, taking Holland Belgium from British with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for British: 1 infantry
Battle in Norway
Germans attack with 5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
Americans defend with 1 bomber, 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
Germans roll dice for 5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in Norway, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 3.17 expected hits
Americans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Norway, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.50 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 bomber owned by the Americans lost in Norway
Germans win with 5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber and 1 infantry
Battle in Finland
Germans attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
Americans defend with 1 infantry
Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Finland, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.33 expected hits
Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Finland, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Finland
1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Finland
Germans win, taking Finland from Americans with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
Battle in Archangel
Germans attack with 2 bombers and 2 infantry
Russians defend with 1 infantry
Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 2 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Archangel
Germans win, taking Archangel from Russians with 2 bombers and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Non Combat Move - Germans
3 fighters moved from Holland Belgium to Southern Italy
1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Western Germany to France
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Finland to Germany
1 fighter moved from Norway to Germany
1 fighter moved from Norway to Germany
3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Norway to Western Germany
1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
1 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Western Germany
2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
2 bombers moved from Archangel to Western Germany
1 bomber moved from Finland to Western Germany
Place Units - Germans
10 infantry placed in Germany
3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany
3 infantry placed in Ukraine
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Southern Italy: 1 fighter
EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Western Germany: 1 fighter
EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Ukraine: 3 infantry
EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Western Germany: 3 infantry
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Turn Complete - Germans
Germans collect 50 PUs; end with 50 PUs
Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 55 PUs
Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 65 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0.17
Russians regular : -0.33
Germans regular : -0.67
British regular : -0.33