Posts made by Auswanderersland

@Alsch91:

Yes, in those extreme and unlikely examples it seems strange.
But in the much more likely scenario that US is allowed to attack Japan’s home territories without fear of repercussion, the rule makes a lot of sense.
The rule prevents a lot more abuse than anything else.

Actually it’s also historical -
US bombers that had to emergency land in siberian territory were actually confiscated by the Russians.  They were neutral in the conflict between Japan and US, and so couldn’t just give back the equipment.

From your own link:
When a power is not at war with anyone, it is neutral. Powers that begin the game neutral, such as the United States and the Soviet Union, aren’t initially part of the Allies or the Axis. The Axis powers are on the opposite side of these neutral powers, but they are not yet considered enemies. While a power remains neutral, it operates under even tighter restrictions. A neutral power can’t move land or air units into neutral territories. It can’t move units into territories or onto ships belonging to another power or use another power’s naval bases, nor can another power move land or air units into its territories or onto its ships or use its naval bases.

However, this is not the case and as Russia is indeed at war across both theatres.  So, I get why Russia is prohibited in the Pacific theatre, but the allies should be able to take advantage of their Allies landing territories.  Thus, I would like better clarification.

@Alsch91:

I’ve posted this in our game as well, but here’s a quote from Larry’s site -

Due to its separate treaties with Germany and Japan, the Soviet Union is in a unique position in its relationship with the Axis powers. As a result, if the Soviet Union is at war with Axis powers on only one map, it is still under the restrictions of being a neutral power (see Powers Not at War with One Another above) on the other map. In other words, a state of war with Japan lifts those restrictions from the USSR on the Pacific map only, and a state of war with Germany and/or Italy lifts those restrictions on the Europe map only.

Here’s a link-

http://www.harrisgamedesign.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=6149

The section is titled “Political Situation - Soviet Union”

This applies to Alpha 2 and Alpha 3.

However, Russia is not Neutral.  It is in fact an allied power across the 2 boards, it has a non-aggression pact with Japan - I would not refer to this as “neutral.”  For example, China at war with Japan may land a plane in Burma while India is neutral yet Britain is at war on the Atlantic side if I recall.

Also, the United States may drop men off in Karelia, walk them until the hit the Pacific Board?  Then all of a sudden stop, saying…well, we reached the pacific theatre…we can’t kill those German units on the other side?

Or for example Russia lands planes on the carrier in Z80 on the European board then moves to India’s waters to help defend their waters against Japan?  So the planes would not defend?

Or for example I strafe 6 japanese troops with american bombers from Russia, I actually can’t because the territories on the pacific map are considered Neutral?

This rule needs revamping if indeed Russia is considered Neutral by the allies on the Pacific Board.

I asked for a ruling, however, I would like to point out the following:

Russia is not a “true” neutral.  They are a member of the Allied forces and allow allied units in their territories in both maps once at war with Germany/Italy.

To give an example of why America may land planes is the following:

Germany is in Siberia, so America may never attack?  That would silly.

Question 1
It is Turn 5. 
Russia and Japan have not declared war against each other.

Are other allied pieces allowed to move into russian territories of both the Europe and Pacific maps?

Example:

America landing planes in Russia in Pacific theatre?

Question 2
It is Turn 13
Russia and Japan have not declared war against each other.

Are other axis pieces allowed to move into Russian territories in the Pacific theatre?

If someone knowledgeable could give a ruling and site the source, that would be swell.  Thanks!

*rugby game

sorry its taking so long, i may have separated my shoulder during a rugby yesterday…i can barely move my arm atm.  I have yet to confer with my ally about the present japanese expansion.

Good save, I am glad you caught it.  Sounds good man, no worries.  No changes for Russia.  Don’t really see how it will affect her.

Beware the bombers!

And yes, Italy can’t blitz through the factory, they have to stop there JJ.  Found it in the rule book.

Approved.  I know why you did it.  The argument may go either way, but more importantly, we won’t lose Russia through luck this way JJ.

I am already glued to the game, although I am very very curious to see what J has planned.

India missing production?

NSTH,

could you post a blank board prior to the combat moves so I can save it to file?

Thanks

Aus

Turn 4 Russia

DoW Germany/Italy
remain neutral w/ Japan

Production 37 IPC:

12 inf
save 1 IPC

no combat moves

Noncombat moves:
To Sukr:  all units Nukr, all units except AA gun Bry
To Russia: AA gun Bry
To Yen: 2 mec, 2 tank Bury
To Tim: 3 fig, 2 tac Amur
To Z115: BB Z113
To Z106: sub Z117

Placement:
3 inf Sukr
9 inf Russia

Collection 31 + 1 saved = 32 IPC

Auswander&James vs Alsch 04bR.AAM

I didn’t know if Alpha 2 would allow you to drop off to multiple spots or not, sorry…I just figured you coulda eaten more of Russia.

Thanks and no scramble.

This is a question if you could answer it.  Transports may only drop off to one territory.  Is this the case or are they allowed to split their drop offs now?

Alsch,

JJ and I will be afk with the families this weekend, we are meeting down at his house.  Anyway, turns will be slow and probably need another day with Russia as JJ and I are installing stuff in his house - but we will probably spend half the night talking about what to do with the allies after Japan’s move.

Thank you for your time and patience!
Andy

@Alsch91:

Again I don’t think France can affect Germany so I’ll just proceed.

Agreed, France will have no impact to Germany, but I didn’t want to assume you were ok with me proceeding out of order based on what I thought you would do with your Italian troops in Africa.

@Alsch91:

I think you placed an extra Inf in Npr; there should only be one there. � I think deleting one of them makes everything add up, but feel free to check me.

Good catch, you are right on.  Only one troop went to Npr.

Thanks for the correction btw

Britain collection stands at 28 IPC