You are right, Zukov.  There is no perfect shuck where you can drop(shuck-shuck) to justy one place the whole game.  I was looking to see if it was that simple but it’s not.  It requires you to know when to switch.  Of course it’s obvious on certian shucks when to do that but the key is to know when to focus eveything you have on germany and try to take the capital before they can take Moscow.  I know when I am playing a decent player or an expert player by the moves they make.  If playing an expert player chances are you will be taking Germany about the same time as they will be taking Moscow.  You just have to be able to take Germany the round before, the round of, or hopefully by the round after they take Moscow and even that might be tricky(round after taking germany) depending on how many outlying territories Japan has taken during the course of the game(australia, africa?, maybe even Brazil).

I use KAF all the time.  I have an 18-7 record with it(74%-75% WIN RATE).  It really only works against those who have not seen it before.  Once you have seen it you can easily block or thwart it.  A little less than half of those wins turned out to be sea lions instead with the KAf start

I have done maybe 65+ games in the last 1 1/2 months of revised testing out diff shuck shucks.  I have come to realize that playing against expert axis players there is no way to do a constan shuck shuck without switching it up at some point during the game.  Here is what I mean:  
1)I tried shuck shucks with US(eastern canada) and UK down to algeria(op:torch) and just kept moving troops down to africa each turn with both.  As many as I could then brought them across africa.
2)I tried the same shuck shuck with US taking troops of Libya and into caucus while UK still drops to algeria and comes across.  
3)I have tried US from E. canada to algeria, across africa and UK to norway/kar/arch
4)US(e. canada) to algeria then to libya them shuck to caucus
5)US(e. canada) to WE and UK to WE
6)US (e.canada) shuck to UK then shuck to norway/kar/arch/E.Europe with UK going same place

Pretty much i have tried all combinatuions and those in between.  Here was the thing I was doing with those shucks.  I was sticking with the the “lines of logistics” even if there was an opening, like say germany left souther europe open or WE open when I was doing the down the africa shuck.  It was juat to see how each would play out doing the same feeding of troops non-stop.   This was roughly 5 games per shuck strategy…some a few more some a few less.  Mostly against good-expert players on triple A.  A few were not to good but thats why I did multiple test runs with each shuck strat.  I have finally come to the conclusion that no constant shuck works with a 65% or higher win rate…  To increase my win rate with any shuck strat(just to reiterate by shuck strat I mean US and UK dropping some place or placesnor/kar/arch) I need to switch up the main drop point sometimne during the game.  So lets say after securing africa and dropping some troops on nor/arch/kar you have to then start dropping into…lets say WE as an example.  That seems to have the best odds for winning.  The reason I tried this was to see just how and if it worked just by dropping max troops someplace and bringing them in9example: all 12 troops US to africa or 5 troops and 5 tanks then across africa and just keep doing that and see if thats enough to stop japan at perisa and get to causus while dropping max amount of troops from UK on nor/kar/arch or doing shuck from e. canada to norway and same with UK and just keep doing that the whole game.

Not sure if this makes any sense or not.  I caught a lot of flak while testing these from watchers and players who would see me skip an opportunity wide open just to stick with the shuck strat I was testing at the time.  Heck may have been like 80+ games even.

I wrote down al my wins and losses and calculated win rates with almost all games on Low luck and with germnay 9 bid(or germany 8 jap 1
Okay so is there a shuck that I can keep flooding troops into that has a higher than 60% win rate when playing against a good/expert players?  The highest win rates I get are when i don’t concentrate troops but spread them out(UK and US only not russia)
Does any of this make any sense to anyone cause it’s 5 a.m. here been up all night.
thanks
jason

Where do you guys play A&A online or A&A type games?  I play over at Triple A right now but was wondering if there was another location where others play online?  No email or anything like that.  I like the triple a setup is there anything similar to that?  thanks guys!
jason

Zukov…thank you so so much.  I appreciate it alot…more than you no(junkie).  Thats what I needed was a layout walkthrough to get me started, then to tweak if need be or in later rounds.  Thanks so much!  Exactly what i needed.  I will come back with any followup questions if you don’t mind.  thanks Jen I appreciate it.

Thanks so much jen!  I actually sent you an email asking info before i came back here and saw your reply.  I read about Switch game…LOL.  I few questions if you don’t mind.  What is better a “slow japan” or a “kill japan” with slowing japan for the purpose of KGF?  Do you recommend rnd. 4 to implement it like you said in other post?  What about IC in S. Africa and/or australia like you mentioned?  How much UK navy do i build to help US when it’s implemented(if IC in south africa and/or australia?  You mentioned consolidating fleet near argentina in one of your post?  Then you use america to island hop along and/or britian, keeping the fleets together(this is more of a slow japan strat??)  As of now I would prefer a slow japan strat more I think.  I just did a first test run using another posters idea…with all of india fleet to jap tranny sz59 then the plane to jap sub soloman islands with UK sub and tranny then land fighter on american carrier, build sinkiang IC and india IC.  I was able to take all the islands eventually and almost all of mainland asia but germany was able to take out russia even though i did a decent job of holding them off.  If it’s to much trouble, as I know it’s a pain to type out all the answers and info, could you help me get a good start?  I have searched the net high and low and you seem to be the only one that gives a halfway decent deatiled KJF or SJD(slow hapan down) strat.  i appreciate it alot and thank you so much.
jason

Been looking for a KJF on here but can’t find any to get me started on what i should do.  Once I get a rough outline I should be able to tweak it.  I used the search funtion but can’t find anything that gives me a starting step by step outline.  Can someone link me or show me to where i can find a decent KJF please?  Would be much appreciated :-)
thanks guys
jason