if you do scramble and fight the first round, what would you like to do on following rounds?
if my subs hit one or two of your subs would you like to submerge or keep fighting?
what if i have 1 sub and and you have 2 or 1 subs, would you like to submerge or fight?
would you like to scramble?
i am ignoring your subs.
if you scramble in sz6, your subs can fight.
please let me know if you want to submerge or fight.
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7
Game History
Round: 4
Combat Move - French
1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Ethiopia
French take Ethiopia from Italians
Combat - French
Non Combat Move - French
Turn Complete - French
Territory Summary for French :
Ethiopia : 1 flag, 1 infantry
Production/PUs Summary :
Germans : 40 / 60
Russians : 43 / 59
Japanese : 54 / 98
Americans : 51 / 71
Chinese : 4 / 6
British : 27 / 28
UK_Pacific : 7 / 0
Italians : 14 / 25
ANZAC : 13 / 22
French : 8 / 0
Dutch : 0 / 0
Mongolians : 0 / 0
Neutral_Axis : 2 / 0
Neutral_Allies : 2 / 0
Neutral_True : 18 / 0
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7
Game History
Round: 4
Purchase Units - ANZAC
ANZAC buy 1 destroyer and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - ANZAC
2 infantry moved from Shan State to Malaya
1 infantry moved from Burma to India
Combat - ANZAC
Battle in Malaya
ANZAC attack with 2 infantry
Japanese defend with 1 harbour and 1 infantry
ANZAC roll dice for 2 infantry in Malaya, round 2 : 0/2 hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Malaya, round 2 : 0/1 hits
ANZAC roll dice for 2 infantry in Malaya, round 3 : 0/2 hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Malaya, round 3 : 0/1 hits
ANZAC roll dice for 2 infantry in Malaya, round 4 : 1/2 hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Malaya, round 4 : 1/1 hits
1 infantry owned by the ANZAC and 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Malaya
ANZAC win, taking Malaya from Japanese with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry
Battle in India
ANZAC attack with 1 infantry
Japanese defend with 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in India, round 2 : 0/1 hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in India, round 2 : 1/1 hits
1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in India
Japanese win with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry
Non Combat Move - ANZAC
1 mech_infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland
2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Queensland to South Australia
1 aaGun moved from Queensland to South Australia
1 fighter moved from New South Wales to Queensland
1 fighter moved from New South Wales to 54 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
Place Units - ANZAC
1 destroyer and 2 submarines placed in 62 Sea Zone
Turn Complete - ANZAC
Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 63 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,5
ANZAC collect 12 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 12 PUs total
Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 17 PUs
Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 22 PUs
Territory Summary for ANZAC :
Malaya : 1 flag, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
Queensland : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 4 fighters, 1 harbour and 1 mech_infantry
New Zealand : 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
New South Wales : 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
South Australia : 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry
New Guinea : 1 infantry
Dutch New Guinea : 1 flag
46 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer
54 Sea Zone : 1 fighter
62 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer and 2 submarines
Production/PUs Summary :
Germans : 40 / 60
Russians : 43 / 59
Japanese : 54 / 98
Americans : 51 / 71
Chinese : 4 / 6
British : 27 / 28
UK_Pacific : 7 / 0
Italians : 15 / 25
ANZAC : 13 / 22
French : 7 / 0
Dutch : 0 / 0
Mongolians : 0 / 0
Neutral_Axis : 2 / 0
Neutral_Allies : 2 / 0
Neutral_True : 18 / 0
sorry for the delay this move is a difficult one for me.
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7
Game History
Round: 10
Purchase Units - Italians
Italians buy 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Italians
1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
Italians take Anglo Egyptian Sudan from British
1 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Timguska
Italians take Timguska from Russians
1 bomber moved from Turkey to Russia
Combat - Italians
Strategic bombing raid in Russia
AA fire in Russia : 0/1 hits
Bombing raid in Russia rolls: 4 and causes: 4 damage to unit: factory_major
Bombing raid in Russia causes 4 damage total.
Non Combat Move - Italians
1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Tambov
1 bomber moved from Russia to Bryansk
1 infantry moved from Iraq to Trans-Jordan
3 mech_infantrys moved from Turkey to Volgograd
3 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to Caucasus
1 mech_infantry moved from Persia to Trans-Jordan
1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to France
1 mech_infantry moved from Southern France to Gibraltar
1 artillery, 2 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys moved from Northern Italy to Western Germany
2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Turkey to Western Germany
Place Units - Italians
1 transport placed in 81 Sea Zone
2 armour placed in Egypt
2 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in Northern Italy
Turn Complete - Italians
Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 105 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,2,1,2,3,6
Italians collect 29 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 29 PUs total
Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 35 PUs
Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 40 PUs
Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 45 PUs
Territory Summary for Italians :
Timguska : 1 flag, 1 infantry
Kazakhstan : 1 flag
Trans-Jordan : 1 flag, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
Gibraltar : 1 flag, 1 harbour, 8 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
Egypt : 1 flag, 2 armour, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
Anglo Egyptian Sudan : 1 flag, 1 infantry
Syria : 1 flag
France : 1 aaGun
Western Germany : 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 5 infantry, 5 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
Denmark : 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
Northern Italy : 2 artilleries, 1 factory_major and 4 infantry
Southern Italy : 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
Bryansk : 1 bomber
Bessarabia : 1 flag
Tambov : 1 infantry
Novosibirsk : 1 flag
Volgograd : 3 mech_infantrys
Caucasus : 1 flag, 3 mech_infantrys
Portugal : 1 flag
Turkey : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor
Saudi Arabia : 1 flag
Greece : 1 flag
Iraq : 1 flag
81 Sea Zone : 1 transport
Northwest Persia : 1 flag
Persia : 1 flag
Spain : 1 flag
Production/PUs Summary :
Germans : 53 / 73
Russians : 18 / 55
Japanese : 56 / 67
Americans : 69 / 90
Chinese : 8 / 9
British : 29 / 31
UK_Pacific : 0 / 0
Italians : 31 / 45
ANZAC : 9 / 11
French : 6 / 0
Dutch : 0 / 0
Mongolians : 0 / 0
Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
Neutral_True : 4 / 0
yikes dice gods must be real upset with you.
i am not sure if i have seen a perfect 3/3 aagun hit
it’s our thanksgiving weekend, turns will be slow.
can you please post the map.
OK, the mythbusters result is in.
The myth on trial:
The Axis has been significantly luckier in attacks where the attacker had all air (first casualties would be air)The results:
MYTH
See attached.
I concur with AWN (although he should have said ONE loss, no remainder in Amu), that the losses for both sides have been nearly DEAD EVEN, the WHOLE MATCHThe results are almost as even as they could possibly be. If you look at the “cumulative” column, you will see that the disparity in expected air losses in all-air battles never grows to more than 1.5, so you can’t argue cumulative effects from early luck being greater than late luck, etc etc
The final cumulative total - Axis has advantage of less than ONE PLANE
Find something else to complain about Bold. This one’s all in your head. You have a point about the Cow game, but not this one.
Now here’s an interesting side note:
Allies have risked their air 18 times
Axis, only 10 times, but this does not take into account the larger risks of the J2 air strike or Amur, although the Axis knew they had the low luck reroll option backing them up both times.Disclaimer: I only went through the game once (took me about an hour) and have not double checked. I might have missed some AA fire or something.
I did not see any dogfights before SBR’s. If you see anything I missed, let me know and I can amend the worksheet.Thanks, that was fun :-)
i see you enjoy wasting time/making spread sheets.
i am not above making mistakes, but i am going to double check you results.
my quick and dirty sheet only took 20 min so i could have missed somethings, but i thought it was going to be quick and accurate.
ok just scanned your sheet and the map.
this took me longer than making my sheet.
here is what you had missed.
g1 france
rus4 west ukraine
j4 burma
g5 smolensk
and i noticed i missed uk6 on gibralter on my sheet.
also on my sheet on j2 szechwan and usa2 sz6 i used .81 and .79 and you used 1 and 1, i used expected results if you win, and you used expected total results. but this will not matter as both cancel each other out.
i did not go check the math on all your individual results but assume they were correct.
i did miss the gibralter attack that hit 1 of 3 aaguns. so that would reduce the allies by .5 planes.
so taking my missed gibralter attack into account
axis have lost 1.417 more planes than average.
allies have kept 0.77 more planes than average.
If u r gonna do it do it right is gamers philosophy.
U are sending all 4 interceptors up. Dutch is rolling in about 10 min.
yes all 4. sorry i should have been more clear.
i see you enjoy wasting time/making spread sheets.
it should have read
i see you also enjoy wasting time/making spread sheets.
without the also it could be taken as an insult
OK, the mythbusters result is in.
The myth on trial:
The Axis has been significantly luckier in attacks where the attacker had all air (first casualties would be air)The results:
MYTH
See attached.
I concur with AWN (although he should have said ONE loss, no remainder in Amu), that the losses for both sides have been nearly DEAD EVEN, the WHOLE MATCHThe results are almost as even as they could possibly be. If you look at the “cumulative” column, you will see that the disparity in expected air losses in all-air battles never grows to more than 1.5, so you can’t argue cumulative effects from early luck being greater than late luck, etc etc
The final cumulative total - Axis has advantage of less than ONE PLANE
Find something else to complain about Bold. This one’s all in your head. You have a point about the Cow game, but not this one.
Now here’s an interesting side note:
Allies have risked their air 18 times
Axis, only 10 times, but this does not take into account the larger risks of the J2 air strike or Amur, although the Axis knew they had the low luck reroll option backing them up both times.Disclaimer: I only went through the game once (took me about an hour) and have not double checked. I might have missed some AA fire or something.
I did not see any dogfights before SBR’s. If you see anything I missed, let me know and I can amend the worksheet.Thanks, that was fun :-)
i see you enjoy wasting time/making spread sheets.
i am not above making mistakes, but i am going to double check you results.
my quick and dirty sheet only took 20 min so i could have missed somethings, but i thought it was going to be quick and accurate.
is this including the first battle of amur?
no we rerolled it lowluck and there were no aaagun rolls in lowluck as it was 2 losses no remainder
i went through all the combats in the game that had only air as attacker or was an aagun battle rolled.
i just tabulated hits and misses by the defenders.
however there were 3 battles that were not 80% or above for the attacker to win in the first round of combat. for those 3 battles i just did the expected outcome vs the actual outcome.
i am surprised with how close to average the results in air battles are.
axis have lost 1.417 more planes than average.
allies have kept 1.27 more planes than average.
nice edit.
i looked at the turn yesterday but did not make my move as i was still thinking what was best.
your edit throws my plans out the window.
after work i will do a quick analysis of air attacks
i believe you have gotten better luck especially in air attacks, will be interesting to find out.
…favorable trades you are getting on all air attacks and our poor results of all air attacks…
what do you consider air attacks?
aaguns?
escort and interceptor?
combat in territories when the attacker only has air units?
combat in seazones when the attacker only has air units?
all of the above?