Posts made by alamein

hey SB the message I was telling you about still comes up. Ie… unable to find Axis_Allies Iron Blitz on your hard drive. now I got this copy out of the underdogs downloads- should I change the name of the executable program from (i think it’s) A&A .exe or will this downloaded version not play. I have looked for a copy of this disc- but alas it cannot be easily found. I may have already duplicated this as an email to you, but usually you’re here hanging around, so I thought I’d ask here first.

also a side note on terrorism-
the reason I brought up terror attacks in the first place(before F_alk) threw me off by denouncing me as ludicrous was to argue that the soviets we not merely defending themselves. they wanted us to leave so they would have europe. WHY? who knows, why did hitler want russia, or napoleon for that matter?
there were always terror attacks in germany. the two I citied were two I could clearly remember as a youth that were soviet backed. terror attacks continued into the 90’s in europe (and germany - berlin night club) but were middle eastern in origin.
my point was that… IF the soviets didn’t want war… why train and finance terrorists to aggitate anti american sentiment? we (to my knowledge didn’t do this). at least not in romainia, hungry, check, yugosl. ect.
another example- the nation that has peace as it’s ultimate aim for war realizes the futility in building enough nuclear weapons to destroy thr world 100 times over- then we build missle defense systems. the country that wants war states that the anti missle system could provoke war, then works on counter measures for our defense system.
and russia, china, vietnam they were all as close to communist as you can get. you will never achieve some magic utopia. their founding principles were of communist Idiology, they were as close as humanly possible. but humans are corruptable, so communism cannot work.

f_alk -

I would tend to agree with you about humanity- not being much different than animals- and would reply that in truth we try too hard to deny that we are little more than animals. only our ability to use and record language has allowed us to rise above the rest. we still have all the same basic urges of animals- mate, defend territory, self preservation, and species proliferation. the more we try to make ourselves out to be more than that, the less we’ll understand about ourselves. consequence- man’s dependancy on psychiatric drugs.

and your argument about a preference for soviet domination as opposed to USA’s two handed friendship, I can only reply with this-

ask your grandparents how they felt about the red army as it approached germany. those people we not out to win a war- they wanted revenge. they killed everything they could, and raped and pilliaged what they wanted. germans that couldn’t flee to the west (and surrender to us) killed themselves rather than be subjected to the russians.

two quick examples- both from the very informative history channel series war of the century-

one- they talk about a town were the people actually went down to the river and drowned their children and themselves. one of the survivors painfully recalled all the bloated bodies. - how determined do you have to be to drown yourself?
and the second was how the german soldiers who were captured were briefly interrogated - then had their throats cut! and the guy doing this bragged about it!
guderian himself was “very fortunate” to be staying in a hostel near the us lines when the war ended.

US justice- Pieper’s ss panzer unit killed what 28 american POW’s at malmedy? after the war all survivors of this unit were sentenced to hang for this crime. but the US courts got involved- and only Pieper served time- what six years? and was released. of course he was quickly killed by a jewish assassin. but of course - we’re war like barbarians and life is better under soviet rule.

WHY then when germany re-united in 88, was the east so screwed up. why the sudden rise in inflation and unemployment. and as I remember many in the west didn’t want to absorb the east’s debt. they feared that they were in such bad shape it would bankrupt the country.
NOW those in the east had no such qualms about the west. they packed everything they could into those cheap little cars and headed west baby. lest the soviets change their minds.

crustic -
you raise an interesting perspective that I have never heard of before- point me to where you have gotten that info. in panzer leader guderian is puzzled by hitler’s war declaration, and accredits this towards hitlers foundness of the japanese warrior. and he would be some one I assume would be in the know.

Tinker- you bring up a very interesting point. and I cannot argue logically that this course would not have lead public opinion to sway. Once agian a credit to the administration for proceeding - against an enemy they could see was dangerous- Against public opinion.

f_alk. we were discussing the summer of 41, the treaty had already been broken, and the german army in august was already deep inside russia. I believe they captured smolensk in either august or september, and soon there after AG north did invade the baltic states (latvia estonia and lithuania- the populances of which were far harsher on the jews than the nazi’s). in order to isolate lenningrad. right?? I could be wrong- wouldn’t be the first time. and I don’t think we’re any more prone to violence or war than anyone else. why in germany they say “auslander Raus” like we say “hello”. but I think human beings as a whole ARE warlike. I think you have to be, for your Ideas and beliefs to survive.

TG TM jeez now I’m confused. actually I’m not a student. I work on cars- and to stay ahead of the game you have to constantly read and attend classes and seminars. working on cars in most reputable shops involves sophisticated tools and an excellent understanding of how and why they work (theory). I have some industry reports from last summer with actual production time tables and the thoery behind the hydrogen fuel cell. it’s not too complex- just different. I hope that doesn’t disappoint you (me not being the typical left wing internet rocket scientist), but my favorite job is being my kids dad. and that beats rocket science any day.

Tg
don’t think I’m arguing with you, I don’t have an argumentative tone while I’m writing (YOU). I can see we are agreeing on many issues. however the benefits / drawbacks of communism isn’t/aren’t one of them. I feel strongly about hard work, dedication, and working for my goals. I see the belief that everything can be easy if we all just… as being contrary to those beliefs.
I recognise that ho chi mihn was a great leader. and that the form of communism veitnam adopted was very beneficial - temporarily to by far the majority of the people- who before had nothing. but there has to be social class distinction. any socialist/communist society still maintains class distinction. those who rule have more- and therefore merely subjegate the masses. maybe in a perfect word we could all be nomadic grazers where we are all equal, but in reality I can’t see how anyone would tolerate life in moderation- or life at someone elses pace. we’d either fall prey to a more organized less lethargic society, or we’d all be so lazy we’d just shoot ourselves to get it over with. unless of course your commie society was the one with the chicks and booze - in that case I’m in. :D

i missed it but skimmed thru it on aol- seemed cool. pressing forward is good. I’m not big on giving more money away either (medicade) but seniors deserve to be taken car of. many of them fought with real issues. besides the baby boomers are getting old. if he wants to maintain office he has to do what they want.

and the part where you said it seemed like I was contradicting myself- I’m not quite sure what you mean-
your quote almost (to me ) infers that why should the boss get rich off the fruit of my labors while I sit here being poor. that’s not what I said. to me the boss gets rich because he has the most to loose. and I’m not poor- I’m not rich either - but I work harder so I deserve more.
no, what I said was I am the worker bee, I bring nectur back to the hive. why should cleetus’s big butt get some of my nectur!? all he does is longe around the hive and complain that he can’t fly because his back hurts. mean while he’s running around bench pressing beer cans and driving a bigger SUV than me. does that make any sense? probably not. I’m tired see you tomarrow.

TG mostly I’ll respond to the vehicle stuff-
batteries that will go 100, 000 miles? I said four years- typically the customers that I deal with will have closer to 150K on their cars in four years. so it’s the same differense- no offense.

and I keep on top of the industry- it’s my job. I’ve dealt with electric cars- as part of wright patt afb’s emmissions compliance program, and that’s where I base my opinions on that. also the types of cars were seeing now- the hybrid ULV’s and the SULv’s ARE just a stop gap. we are extremely close to full production of the hydrogen fuel cell vehicle. it doesn’t work like an IC engine. it has more to do with hydrogen cell stacking- more like a battery- I’ll refresh myself and then comment tomarrow.

I thought it was funny that bush said we’ll push forward on the issue of hydrogen fuel cars- to me it’s almost like saying- tomarrow i’m going to set in motion a serious of events that will lead to massive global communication- and I’ll call it the internet. :D

also you miss my point on communism. I don’t work on cars to get rich, it’s a challenge. kind of like solving a puzzle. where the reward is a job well done and a feeling of accomplishment. where does some one like me fit in in a communist society where IDEALLY everyone is happy with the mundain. WOW we could all work three hours a day- that sounds great if your Ideal goal is to get down to living comfortably and working no hours per day. but what about me? I work harder and expect more- and I demand more from others- line me up for the firing squad I guess?
to me communism almost seems like a day dreamers paradise. we’ll all be rich, and have all the beer you can drink, and all the women will be really hot to. and we can work if we want to , then we can just be cool man.

and also the first rule is that if you win I disavow any knowledge of you or the game. secondly if I win you will never live it down! :D

sorry about not replying in a minute, but the other general discussion eats at me. I’m not sure why it siad that. but I haven’t tried to play it again since then. I’ll give it a test run tomarrow, and I think I still have to downlaod an internet explorer browser also. I’m not really a computer person, so I don’t know all the lingo. I mainly just use it for word processing or to offset boredom by smashing the cpu in Iron Blitz (which is on the Hard Drive).

let’s make it 11:00 est. in the zone. I’ve got a ps2, mostly for my boy, but i like to play the madden games. I still haven’t tried the nickle blitz yet. - been arguing too much. the bond game is the older agent under fire. I don’t think we’ve ever played the game - just the multi player- he nearly beat me today- we had the golden guns -one shot one kill- I had to cheat a bit to remain the dominant male.

saturday is cool. just let me know about what time cartoons get over-just kidding I myself watch them with my son- let me know about a good time-
well i gotta go my boy wants a rematch in 007

strongbad you are a kid after my own blackened and diseased conservative heart. I hope you don’t end up in your late twenties defending your opinions on the internets axis and allies website because you have nothing better to do. :cry:

nuclear energy is the worst Idea for self sufficiency. It’s FAR too dangerous. environmentally speaking you have extremely toxic waste, and the process itself is the most inefficent way to harness the enrgy released from the reaction. if you could harness that energy directly- instead of turning it to steam to turn a turbine then I might agree. and electric cars aren’t that good or dependable. they lack performance. the newer hydrogen fuel cell cars will be a much better solution, and in the interm the diesel and gasoline electric cars get incredible mileage. electic cars create other problems as well. how long does your cell phone battery last? and what -you probably throw it in the trash right? that’s great for the environment- but now imagine a battery four to eight times the size of the one in your current vehicle. what the hell are you gonna do with that every four years (or less) when you need a new one??? batteries decay-short- and are unrelyable. we will be swicthing to 42 volt batteries in cars within the next few years to further increase fuel economy. this will require even larger batteries.
there is no car manufacturer conspiracy to make you buy gas cars- the technology is just now becoming reliable enough and more importantly affordable enough to use alternative fuels.
consider this
the auto manufacterers realize that they have taken the ICE (gas engine) as far as they can to meet goverment stantards. to meet future standards they know they need the next great leap in technology.
for instance- fuel injection has been out since the sixties- it has the benefits of lower emmissions and higher gas mileage. why then wasn’t it placed on all cars?? NO IT"S NOT A GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY. it is because the technology was not streamlined enough to mass market. as the technology developed we went from carbs, to feedback carbs, to Throttle body injection, to multi port injection and finally to tune port.
we now have the gas engine performing at such a high efficiency that the only tweaks we can make to increase fuel economy are as follows:
-thinning the oil to reduce drag
-switching to electronic brakes to reduce drag
-switching to electronic steering to eleminate the pump thusly - drag
and so on- miniscule changes.
they know that the next step is hybrid cars, and that’s a stop gap until the new hydrogen vehicles are perfected. electric cars stink- their belts break they have no power, big batteries and are limited in size. plus they are expensive.
that is how I see it, you guys all ripped me a new one when I made my anti communist babble. so don’t take it too hard if i disagree on something that I do know about.

lighten up, it was not ignorance towards communism- it was comedy- smokey and the bandit???
I know enough about the re distribution of wealth to know that in principle, theory and practice it’s wrong. Why should I give up part of what I work for- for the benefit of a few dreggs who can’t survive on their own? why should I go to work and bust my hump to get the same quality of life as my neighbor who is out of work with a “back injury” or my uncle who has no means to support his ten kids. hell they drive nicer cars than I do. that is the essence of communism. take from the haves give to the have nots- everybody’s equal, happy and without social turmoil.
well that fails to take into account peoples desire to be rewarded for hard work. and peoples despair when they see others (who couldn’t survive without government subsistance) rewarded for being sloths.
hell now I’m really upset, let’s discuss the relationship between communism the democratic party and welfare- or for that matter unemployment. any takers??
A MAN IS ONLY WORTH AS MUCH AS HE CAN WORK FOR. it doesn’t matter the skin color, or sexual orientation, what matters to me is could you be useful enough to survive without the government? I can, I do it every day. and I don’t appreciate part of my income going to subsidize dead beat bums who live off of the system.
maybe you can tell me… in a communist society what does the guy who always gives 110% get??? how about the slacker who slides by B>S>ing his way thru life???

I have read various people’s opinions on what would have happened had japan not attacked us. we didn’t declare war on germany until after hitler declared war on us, however that didn’t happen until we declared war on japan. many people feel that had hitler NOT declared war on us that we would have fought exclusively in the pacific. which would have aided hitler in many ways. however he did this with the hopes that japan would attack russia and perhaps prevent desaster outside of moscow. but if the japanese wouldn’t have attacked at all, roosevelt’s plan to escort ships across the north atlantic could have blown up in his face. remember we were just about slip on the war. a boat full of dead americans who got shot up hunting german subs could have swung the pendulumn either way.

like I said I’m not trying to trick or trap anyone. I just want to know. personally I feel that we were being dragged into that war against the consensus by an administration that could see beyond the immediate cost in lives. yes many people died in WW1, but war was still viewed as an almost romantic adventure back then. a way to prove yourself as a man. I think I would have supported war- if for no other reason than to kill.
but something inside me often wonders, that with that being said, would I have had the courage to step out of that boat, and into a hail of gunfire on normandy?
I have the utmost respect for those boys , and men who paid the ultimate price to rid others of tyranny. when I think life is rough I’ll sit back and imagine how they must have felt- 17-18 year old boys (many lied to enlist), many with little more than their first kiss behind them, shot to peices on some beach in france. why did they do it? it was what they felt was right. the people that will fight this and the next war will do so because THEY feel that it’s right. if you don’t feel it’s right you don’t have to fight- unfortunately you still get the benefits others die for.
You don’t join the armed forces if you don’t believe in america and the three founding principles - life , liberty, and the persuit of happiness. and you join knowing full well that you will die to uphold those principles if necessary.
I don’t believe everything that the GOV. says either, but I sift thru the facts- form my own opinion and go with what I know- WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS CUT TAXES AND GO TO WAR- right strongbad???

i was wondering- since none of us were around then. how we would have felt in the summer of 41. europe was engulfed in a war against a nazi juggernaut. and many people felt that it was none of our business. SERIOUSLY consider my obsurdity (we need a darn spell checker). we all have the same feelings then as we do now. does it make sense for us to tell our navy to shoot german ships on sight? does it make sense to protect british shipping clear up to Iceland? can’t that be considered war? why should our boys die for them? hitler’s not so bad, all he’s doing is making up for france and britian’s unjust treaty? this is all political, the presidents just trying to find any excuse to go to war.

play along- I’m not making a point here, just an observation. remember we were neutral (officially) and many people felt that roosevelt was pushing us into war with germany (hitler’s crimes were not yet known, and the nazi’s were mowing thru russia). we of course have the benefit of hindsight now, but pretend the outcome was still uncertain. put your arguments to task here.
I naturally would say war. but that’s with the benefit of all the info. pre 45- who knows? what would you say?

Yanny - Editted Topic to better reflect the thread.

and that’s supposed to be supposed not sopposed.