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@hbg-gw-enthusiast If the Dutch Align with the British upon a declaration of war by Germany and subsequent capitulation, does:

1, Does the UK now control all Dutch ships and forces in
A. English Channel and
B. Dutch East Indies and can now move them?

2. Are all these units replaced with British units?

3. Does the UK collect income from the DEI?

4. Do the Dutch make an recruitment roll?

5. How does this rule 4.12 Minor Power Colonies affect above?

Keep in mind Japan has not attacked the Dutch at this point and Germany has taken the Netherlands.

Having simulated many games I have yet to win as the Soviet player declaring war on Germany before January 1941. I just can’t match the income Germany gets after France falls. I’m trying to avoid the initial surprise assault on me by Germany so I just declare war. Problem is my income does not go to wartime income. Thoughts on how to avoid Germany using its surprise assault?

@hbg-gw-enthusiast Is there a scenario out there, in which these statements can be true:

1. Japan attacks the Dutch only for a 2D12 to USA.
2. Germany attacks the Dutch, but does not declare war on UK, denying a US +5 Peacetime increase.

Based on what I read above and stated in the reference sheet, Japan attacking the Dutch aligns them to UK, giving the UK a +2 peacetime increase.
Then if Germany comes along on the next turn and attacks the Dutch, are they essentially going to war with the UK? Answer is no as Germany does NOT declare war. This action (+ 2D12) will probably get the UK to their wartime income though and the UK can on their turn declare war on Germany, thus denying the USA +5 peacetime increase.

The goal of this is to deny USA a +5D12 and the +5 increase from a declaration of war by Germany on the Commonwealth and forcing UK to declare war on Germany, all in the effort to take all the Dutch territories in Europe and Asia.

Thanks for everyone’s input on this as I’m sure this will help an Axis player(s) understand what consequences attacking the Dutch are.

@trig I want to make sure I understand this.

Turn X
Great Britain is already at war with Germany. Germany attacks the Dutch, They align.
Japan on their turn attack Dutch East Indies. 5D12 USA?

Turn X
Japan attacks the Dutch. Dutch align to GB. 2D12 USA?
Germany on their next turn attack the Dutch.

@trig Assume Germany has already declared war on the Dutch. 5D12 for US? If so, then Japan needs to attack the Dutch before Germany does, right?

Does the US get a 2D12 for the Japanese attacking the Dutch?

I have always found it odd that you can not voluntarily retreat your units, except for the attacker in A&A type games. To think one can not strategically in retreat on defense in battles does not make sense. I think Global War could change this paradigm and add a retreat section to the rules.

Has anybody come up with a rule set that could be incorporated into the game?

The question is how to retreat? There are some units like subs that forfeit their defense roll to submerge. Something like that could work along with some sort of penalties, i.e. forced attrition rolls for the defender. I like the way GMT incorporates retreat rules in their Pax Romana if anyone has ever played that. Great game by the way. Still pushing HBG to produced plastic for games like that.

Some ideas, Pre-Battle Withdrawal, Retreats during battle, first turn, second, etc. Penalties, attrition loses. Where you can retreat, I.e. not in mountain territories. How many sea and land zones one can retreat too.

Thanks in advance for your input.

I have always found it odd that you can not voluntarily retreat your units, except for the attacker in A&A type games. To think one can not strategically retreat on defense in battles does not make sense. I think Global War could change this paradigm and add a retreat section to the rules.

Has anybody come up with a rule set that could be incorporated into the game?

The question is how to retreat? There are some units like subs that forfeit their defense roll to submerge. Something like that could work along with some sort of penalties, i.e. forced attrition rolls for the defender. I like the way GMT incorporates retreat rules in their Pax Romana if anyone has ever played that.

Some ideas, Pre-Battle Withdrawal, Retreats during battle, first turn, second, etc. Penalties, attrition loses. Where you can retreat, I.e. not in mountain territories, possible penalties. How many sea and land zones one can retreat too. If there were options, how the game would change.

Thanks in advance for your input.

I can find no where in the rules that prohibits this.

@sjelso I believe Abyssinia has to win by taking Eritrea to become Free France.

There’s a nice chart I believe on the FAQ now.

@sjelso Yes, see page 26 under Facilities.

I’m sure this is answered somewhere, but here are the questions:

1. Rule 2.6 Peacetime Production: A nation that is not at war with a Major Power only receives half (fractions rounded up) of total oil due to it that turn.

Germany in (Peacetime) gets 3 from Romania, 1 from Venezuela, 1 from Berlin well. That’s a total of 5 divided by half is 3, round up. The chart at the back page says 4.

Germany in ‘38 (peacetime) would get 8, 5 from above and with 3 Major Factories coming online in July ‘38 for synthetic oil, that is another 3. So that would be a total of 8 divided by half is 4 not 6. What am I missing? Chart says 6.

Germany (wartime) it seems would get 8 and not 6?

CHART OIL WARS QUICK REFERENCE GUIDE
4 at Peace (6 starting July 1938)
6 at War

@insanehoshi When you have this tech, from what die D6 or D12 do you get the chance to hit the sub on a roll of “2”?

@hbg-gw-enthusiast looks like the Eratta has been updated now to reflect the topic of choice here.

@manincellv said in War time income:

@noneshallpass That’s really what I wanted to know, that the FEC, ANZAC, and Canada, once GB declares war on Germany, then all three move on the IPP chart to the value of their territories, FEC 14, ANZAC 7, and Canada 6. GB is already at their 25 or 20 with CAW expansion. And all 4 now begin collecting war time income.

@noneshallpass That’s really what I wanted to know, that the FEC, ANZAC, and Canada, once GB declares war on Germany, then all three move on the IPP chart to the value of their territories, FEC 14, ANZAC 7, and Canada 6. GB is already at their 25 or 20 with CAW expansion. Thanks.

The way I read the National Reference Sheets for FEC, ANZAC, is they don’t have wartime income like UK. So when UK declares war on a major power, the other Commonwealth nations now just start collecting their Wartime bonus income, and no more peacetime increases. Is that correct? Or, when the UK goes to war, does the other Commonwealth nations advance their IPP tracker to the full amount of land zones they have, I.e FEC goes to 14 and ANZAC to 7.

@trig correct!

@sjelso said in Subs, Destroyers, MAP and other ships:

@manincellv Ok…I thought the sub forfeits its roll in order to dive/submerge and get away.

Yes, sorry he does forfeit his roll.