I have two concerns with this discussion thread…

1. Strategic bombing is not cost effective.  Every time you go in (assuming no fighter cover either that would make it even worse) you have 1/6 chance of loss to anti-aircraft fire and should average 3 damage per bomber.  So average 3 damage and 2 loss (1/6 of 12 ipc cost) - sorry that’s too easily swayed by bad dice.  One often finds themselves out a few bombers for doing little damage.  I’d rather use strats in combat and wipe out significant units.

2. Proposing 20 IPC for a unit that you want to have a 1 or 2 attack/defense value?  Why would anyone ever buy one?  I can buy 2 fighters for the same and roll with 3’s and 4’s.

Just my thoughts.

@scottyp65:

I tried one strategy this weekend by keeping my British carrier on Sz91 in round 1, and then after Germany built up its invasion force in G2 on sz112, I moved the carrier up to sz110 and landed a plane on it.  Germany could destroy it no problem and still attack there, or go around and attack at sz109, but it effectively blocked aircraft from the continent from attacking Britain.  They had to stop and fight in sz110.

One way around this is for Germany in G2 to move its entire fleet to sz110, and build new transports in 113.  Of course, hindsight is 20/20 and it worked.

Why exactly would a carrier in sz110 stop aircraft from the continent from participating in the attack on Britain?  Aircraft can fly through hostile zones en route to combat (or any time for that matter).

@TheDefinitiveS:

In the rules it states that you must check at the end of each powers turn to remove convoy IPCs. So yes at the end of Italys turn you would remove IPCs then if the sub was still there at the end of Germanys turn then you would remove IPCs. You dont have to declare your intention to raid, as long as you are war with the country you are convoy raiding and you are in the correct sea zone the IPCs have to be removed. Its up to everyone playing to check for these convoy raids. Also…… If you were not at war with Germany then you would only raid at the end of Italys turn.

Agreed - raiding works on every country’s turn (if at war)

While I do like this idea and look forward to testing it out, I’m not sure we shouldn’t instead be focusing on why Sea Lion is unstoppable…  Granted if UK builds up it costs Germany a lot, then again as Germany if UK builds up defensively I would just turn the other way.  At that point he’s spent 2-3 turns of $$ on stuff that really can’t bother me without buying a lot of higher price stuff (naval and air power).

I wonder if the answer is in the placement of the Royal Navy - if it were less accessible to the Luftwaffe on G1 perhaps it could still be a factor?

I’m sure your opponents appreciated that advantage…

Usually in tournament play with individual victory conditions. You play as USA and of course you want the Allied side to win, but since an individual winner will be choosen, by comparing the % gain in income, you may want to play Japan as well just to keep your other allies at bay. Get my point ?

So in an effort to gain the most % increase in IPC you control 2 opposing powers???  So since you won’t attack yourself Japan is free to run amok in Asia with no fear of attack from the US.  Also, allows the US to focus all efforts on Europe?

Sorry, that’s some seriously strange rules…

In exactly what situation would one person play USA and Japan???  Why would someone play both sides?

The turning of the rest of the true neutrals is just too steep a price.  Assuming an attack on Turkey - now the allies have the option to drop in on Spain and Sweeden with 6 bonus inf each.  Add in 6 inf in the middle east, 4 in Africa and 8 in S.America…  30 free infantry - ouch.  With the exception of the ones in S. America they’re all in pretty good places too.  Toss in the loss of the German NO and this is a dicey proposition at best.

I just re-read this and see that you are loading in sz110.  That, then is not legal - my apologies for misreading.

As long as the Krauts bring surface warships to dispatch the Brit DD (and any scrambled fighters), yes this is absolutely legal.  The only thing you lose is the support shots from any Battleships or Crusiers.