Hi guys,

I’m also looking for a printable version of the AA50 map for use in a homemade version.

I think IL’s map is beautiful, but I’m looking for an original map. The extra VC’s are one thing, but the extra islands (country markers, like Malta) will cause a lot of discussion while playing I’m afraid :)

Any tips?

Having played some more games, I no longer really feel dat the Allies have a better chance of winning. Perhaps it just takes more games to learn how to play axis effectively.

Having NO’s on indeed makes the game more realistic and fluid, in the sense that fighting for something like australia for example really is worth the effort more. Perhaps we will try NO’s in the future, when all of our players are more experienced with the vanilla ruleset.

Ok… you’re right… “the sheer amount of extra income they have after turn one and two.”  No need to get all serious :)

Thanks for the quick feedback. I have searched these forums some more and those who have had experience playing '41 without NO’s also mention the imbalance.

I do think that the imblance WITH NO’s is even greater, but then favouring the Axis of course. I have never played the '41+NO variant, but the sheer amount of extra income that the Axis start with en can easily obtain in round 1 makes it look very easy, when you’re used to scraping by without the NO bonus.

I think we will end up playing with a small bid for the Axis, but adding tech rules might make the balance issue less of a problem because of the extra luck factor.

Hi Guys,

We play the game with a group of co-workers and have moved up from classic to a homemade version of AA50.

We like the '41 setup because it is so different from the setups of the older games. We don’t like NO’s, simply because of the tracking involved in keeping tabs on your own and your opponents targets. We had several new players in our group, so the extra rules and strategic considerations would have been too much.

Tech is also not used, but we might do that in the future to spice things up.

I personally do believe that 1941 WITH NO’s will be balanced towards the Axis, they can get al lot of extra income early.

On the other hand, I think that without them, the Axis have a really hard time winning the game. Japan is uber powerfull, but so are the Russians compared to Classic A&A. The Germans have quite a hard time with them.

In the first few games, I really got the feeling that the Axis could not win. In the last game, the 2 most experienced players (Myself and the guy who made the homemade version) took the Axis and were able to win for the first time. This was however, a game in which the US ignored europe in the beginning and D-Day came very late.

What do you guys think of the balance?