5 Boxes: 6 Powers?

@Logic:

So if the US flies a plane to France. Germany can not attack France without declaring war on the US?

The US (starting neutral) can’t land a plane in France while being neutral.
So the answer to your question is ‘yes’ in case

US is at war with Italy (thus belonging to the Allies) and US is still neutral to Germany and France of course is still French

HTH :-)

This is an issue that has cropped up in numerous A&A games.  The box board photos are often taken by marketing department people who simply want to make the picture look pretty and who aren’t overly concerned about depicting things accurately.

If France isn’t taken by turn 1 Germany is in trouble and the UK will thank you for leaving France intact.  Also the USA would collect all of South America if you hit a Netural nation like Turkey.  There are a lot of other holes in the plan…you assuming above average dice rolling which can’t be assumed. Your also assuming the Russian player is stupid and doesn’t figure out your plan and move to counter it. Because all Russia really has to do is hold on and wait for the USA to arrive to help. This tactic wouldn’t work on me as a USA player because I would be sitting in Rome turn 5 especially with Italy having no fleet in the med I would just park my fleet in the med and let you take pot shots at it with fighters(that would be fighters you wouldn’t be able to use to help take the other VC).

Thanks for the comprehendsive explanation.  As to where I have been in the past 8 months or 8 years for that matter is playing in AA revised in a small pool of players in a small backwaters town in Canada.  I joined this site about 2 months ago and having thought AA Pac,Euro, revised were the ONLY 3 flavours until Spring 42 came out.  It has been a suprise to see all the versions and new concepts (NOs, new techs etc, neutral powers).  It also seems I am beeing schooled on Spring 42 by fleetwood dan much to my chagrin.  I have much to learn!

@calvinhobbesliker:

@LHoffman:

@squirecam:

@Razor:

Easy, the game start after the Dunkirk evacuation and after the French navy was scuttled. There is no other way to do it.

The game does start after Dunkirk.

However, whether the French are “well represented” or not….they are finished after 1 round. If Germany doesnt do that, then this would be a QUICK allied victory.

I did some research last night and found out that the if the French are in control of their country at the start of the game … then the French Navy MUST still be “alive”.

The game starts befor the fall of France. This still leaves reasonable assumption that Dunkirk has happened (May 24-26 1940). French resistance ended on June 25. The British bombardment of the French Fleet at Mers-el-Kebir  happened on July 4 (70 years ago tomorrow, interstingly enough).

Based on this information, French ships should still be present at the start of the game. They cannot say the game starts after Dunkirk AND the scuttling of the French Fleet. It is impossible because France is autonomous at the start of the game. I for one hope that France has ships and something can be done with them. Either the French person keeps them, the British can sink them or the Germans can use them, I don’t care. As long as they are there.

Actually, that was on the 3rd of July

Oh my mistake… so 70 years ago today. The book I got the information from said July 4.

I forgot Madagascar as  French territory, so Paris may be 4

Sorry to resurrect a thread that had it’s last post nearly two months ago but…
What if we put Italy and Japan together. It would allow Japan to have a hand in everything
2 Player: Axis v. Allies
3 Player: 1. axis 2. Russia/China 3. All others
4 Player: Japan/Italy 2Germany 3. Russia/China 4. Normal Allies
5 Player: Japan/Italy 2. Germany 3. Russia/China 4. UK/ANZAC 5.USA/ France
6 Player: 1-3 axis powers 4-6Allied powers as above
7 Player: 1-3. Axis 4-6 Major Allies 7. Minor Allies
8 Player: Seperate anzac
9 Player: Each for himself

This way for a game of 2-6 everybody sees both theatres while the game stays mostly historically correct (Italy Japan is a small matter as opposed to Russia+Democracy

The Canadian roundels are there purely for the recognition of Canada’s contribution to the Allied effort.