Naval bases and carriers question

@Krieghund:

@WILD:

I do have one question concerning US not yet at war. Say Japan is still only at war w/China in the 2nd round. The UK/US have moved ships to say sz 43 (Borneo). Japan attacks the UK (unprovoked) in sz 43 immediately bringing the UK/Anzac into the war. This act is also considered a Dec of War w/US as well.

No, it isn’t.

@WILD:

Can Japan still ignore the US ships there, or does this attack also mean you must attack the US ships because your intent will bring the US into the war (like now having to declare a convoy attack on your turn). It will also make a difference if you can bombard Borneo as well if there are no UK surface war ships, only US surface war ships in the sz.

Japan may declare war on UK/ANZAC only and ignore any US ships in the sea zone.  Of course, this means that Japan will be unable to atack any US forces or territories that turn.  The US will then be eligible to declare war on Japan on its next turn.

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fool me another one

@Krieghund:

Income is collected in the Collect Income phase.  If the US is attacked by Japan on J1, the US will still have 17 IPCs to spend on US1.

Thank you for the quick response.

That is what I thought (how we have been playing), just needed a confirmation. There was a heated debate last night.  :lol:

@Lozmoid:

So - I trust you pay for the upgrade during the Purchase & Repair Units phase, and then the upgrade actually takes place during the Mobilize New Units phase. Is this correct?

Yes.

@Lozmoid:

If this is correct, then I assume that the newly upgraded IC (now a Major Industrial Complex) cannot begin to mobilize its full quota of 10 units until the owning player’s next turn. Is that right? It can still only build 3 units during the turn in which it was upgraded. Please advise if I am wrong.

You are correct.

@Krieghund:

Yes, you must do it at the beginning of the Combat Move phase.

So my understanding is “Declaring War” is a separate step in the turn sequence done before Combat Move, since it is not necessarily done in combination with any combat move but applies to all combat moves.  If the is true, this distinction would also keep a player from being able to decide whether or not to declare war (for the sake of convoy raids) after he/she sees the outcome of his combats with other powers (e.g. having retreated into convoy zone of a power with which one is not yet at war).  I’m guessing this is all true?  Thanks for your answers Krieg!

PS- speaking of declaring war as it’s own step in the turn sequence reminds me of an episode of The Office (American) when Michael steps out into the office and shouts “I declare… BANKRUPTCY!”  :-D

That’s what I was assuming but for some reason it seemed odd. Compared to the old AAP, it gives the Brits/ANZAC a bit of an advantage over the Japanese.

Record response time BTW! Thank you.

@Romulus:

“Why are you moving those ACs next to my naval base?”
“ACs? Which ACs? They are luxurious liners with tourists on board”
“Mmm… and why there are three of them?”
“Never heard what happened to Titanic? We do not allow our liners going around alone…”

:-D

Just joking and not sure my joke is understandable (it id difficult for me to make a joke in English)!

My point is: in A&A it is impossible to move “secretly” units in order to place them for a surprise strike. Only way of modelling something like a surprise strike is allowing combat move to be made as the powers were still at peace and then… in the combat phase declaring the state of war starting to roll dice. Even so I believe it is really difficult to obtain a surprise.

:-D

Yeah, it is impossible to make surprise attacks the only surprise Japan can bring is when it will attack.

I’ve read once about a variation on Classic that allowed for tactical surprises: you’d need 2 boardgames, each for 1 player and a 3rd player acting as referee. You’d only know the location of enemy units were adjacent to yours or if you sent fighters on recon missions to SZs/territories. The moves of both players were simultaneous: you’d make your combat moves together then the referee would inform each player of the number of enemies for each battle.

No, they can’t land.

Thanks for the clarification and the new rules errata! I’m omw to play another game tonight and this time I’m Japan.