ABattlemap P40 BETA module

@Stoney229:

Ok, i haven’t installed it yet, but after taking a look at some of the text files in Atilla’s P40 module (which is actually brand new, even tho it doesn’t say so), this is what seems to me:
the only change he seems to have made in the new module, which required an updated program to support it, is a feature that automatically calculates NO’s when you’ve captured the right territories.  Not all NO’s can be represented this way - namely, the 1-time ANZAC one and the US at war one.  That is why the others are no longer found on the map, except Burma Rd.  Until looking into it further, my best guess is that the Burma road marker was left on the map on accident, and means nothing.  That is why when P@nther removed his chinese flag from the rectangle, it was not reflected in the infoview - because he still actually owned all of the Burma Rd.  Does that make sense?

It does- because I removed it just for testing purposes…
… and now I understand why Attila updated 0.79f to 0.80 -> because 0.79f does not support this new functionality.

Thank you for your explanation!
:-)

@BadSpeller:

@Stoney229:

Question:  Do people want this new feature?  I’m not sure I don’t like it better the old way, because I can just hover over the marker to see what I need in order to obtain that objective.

I very much prefer it the old way!

I like that I can hover over the National Objectives to see what to go for, OR what to do to prevent the other side from getting theirs.  Or a quick check–-delete some of the NO’s from the other side to see what their income would be if I took away a NO or two (or three  :-D).

I fully agree. I think that the old system is really helpful.

The price for CV is incorrect in the beta module.  It is listed as 18 rather than 16.  Courtesy Maxo.

Everything else is looking good.

@ksmckay:

The price for CV is incorrect in the beta module.  It is listed as 18 rather than 16.  Courtesy Maxo.

Everything else is looking good.

Also not sure if the airfield , naval base prices are listed as the bottom of the map and info view are slightly truncated on my desktop. Does this have something to do w/1600 x 1200 resolution?  It only affects the infoview on my AA50 modules.

The map truncation is 1600 x 1200 issue as it is fine on 1200 x 1024 however the info view remains slightly clipped.  The air/naval base prices are included.

It is actually fine with the exception of the info view on 1600 x1200. What happens is the overall map size does not change much when it is minimized so you may not appreciate it as I didn’t.  When maximized everything appears.

No, for the prices the CV should be 16 not 18.  The cost of a carrier is 16 not 18.  This is in reference to the bottom right chart.

Looks like it is correctly valued in terms of calculating unit values on the map.  If I place a carrier in a sea zone then it increases the navy value by 16 as it should.

Yeah the hits are a little annoying.  You either swap them as it is now, or you do what you said and just take away and add hits.  Problem with that is now when moving you have to move more stuff since you have to move the hits and the AC.  I think its probably easier just to keep it as it is but maybe others feel differently.

Aircraft Carriers cost 16 IPCs in AAP40
attack 0
defense 2
move 2

@Stoney229:

Currently, the “Hit BB” amd “Hit CV” pieces are worth 18 and 20, respectively.  I think it would be easier if they were, instead, “BB hit” and “CV hit” pieces, worth 0 IPC each, so that you just add and take away the hits, instead of having to swap them for the pieces that are already on the board.  Does that make sense?  What would other people prefer?

I would prefer to leave it as it is. Swapping the pieces seems to be easier to me than moving two pieces that represent in fact only one unit.

@Stoney229:

Also: ICs are currently listed in Infoview as with the land assets, but ABs and NBs aren’t.  I prefer that neither are listed, so that the Infoview just shows unit assets.  Again, what would other people prefer?

I would prefer that neither are listed, too. In AA50 and AA42 they (the ICs) do not count in the Infoview, either.

:-)

Yeah, they are definitely 16 (they used to be 18)  I attached a scan of the rulebook just so there is no doubt.

I also would prefer to leave naval bases, airbases, and ICs off the infoview and leave it strictly for actual forces.

Wow, is that ever nice.

Great improvements Stoney229

+1 to you over many days!

@Stoney229:

alright the new module is up you can link to it from the first post.  The only matter of incompatibility with the previous version is that save files using the new module will show up on the previous module with blank white pieces in place of the mongolians.  I hope you enjoy!  As always, feedback/suggestions/criticisms appreciated!

Great! Thank you.
The BigPieces are a great improvement, too!
:-)

@P@nther:

@Stoney229:

alright the new module is up you can link to it from the first post.  The only matter of incompatibility with the previous version is that save files using the new module will show up on the previous module with blank white pieces in place of the mongolians.  I hope you enjoy!  As always, feedback/suggestions/criticisms appreciated!

Great! Thank you.
The BigPieces are a great improvement, too!
:-)

Thanks a ton- I can’t do those pieces-improvements are superb- thanks for the time doing this for many others to enjoy! :-)  +1- cheers to you! :-)

Stoney, It seems that if you use the non blurry Bigpieces file the bases and ICs appear in the info view. Also the carrier remains listed at 18. This is small potatoes to me, but I wanted to see if I was correct. I downloaded the module from your last link but the bigpieces tool was the blurry one that you modified from mine…I pasted the clear file over that one…would this make the difference ?

@Battlingmaxo:

Stoney, It seems that if you use the non blurry Bigpieces file the bases and ICs appear in the info view. Also the carrier remains listed at 18. This is small potatoes to me, but I wanted to see if I was correct. I downloaded the module from your last link but the bigpieces tool was the blurry one that you modified from mine…I pasted the clear file over that one…would this make the difference ?

The *.bmp files, such as bigpieces.bmp are just cosmetiacl pieces…they contain only “Color-information” and nothing else. The files that are responsible for information such as unit costs, calculation in the Info-View etc. are those ending with *.txt.  See for example the toolpieces.txt.

The unit cost list in the right part of the map on the other hand is only a cosmetical issue that is not related to any txt-information in other files.
In other words: To change the values of unit costs for counting purposes in the info-view needs a modification of the toolpieces.txt.
To change values in the unit cost list you have to edit the map.bmp itself with an image-editor such as Paint.net.

So it is not enough to copy the BigPieces.bmp. To make sure to update everything that is necessary you should download and replace the complete module from Stoney’s first post in this thread:

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=16253.msg542148#msg542148

Works perfectly at my place.

HTH :-)

I did download as you directed but simply pasted over the existing folder. It seems that you must delete the previous module then paste the new one.  Thanks