What Scupts to use for France

I use OOB rules.
I bought this game in November and play one on one against my usual A&A opponent.
We’ve played seven games so far and the axis have won four…allies three. So we think it’s pretty balanced…the only thing we don’t like is the starting IPC’s for Italy. You can’t buy sh*t with that and they lose half of their starting fleet before it’s their turn.
But since the axis have won four out of seven it hasn’t really affected the overall outcome.

@Bruda_Iz:

How about a similar rule but for the allies in Italy…. something like the minute Rome is taken all Italy kicks out Musilini and becomes and Allie?  LOL

Haha, that’s not a bad idea, actually – it adds some balance to the Vichy rules. You could make it that if Rome is captured, Italy is restored as an Allied country, played by whoever took their capitol.

1. USA
2. Russia
3. Germany
4. Uk
5. Italy

I can see a fair case for both. My strat with Italy is to focus on the Balkans and keep my fleet in the eastern Med, away from the British in the Atlantic and close enough to redeploy to Egypt/mid-east should I need to. I would prefer the Germans to have southern France just so they have an easy jumping point and because, with the larger income, can more easily afford to build fleets there as nesscary.

@jeffdestroyer:

My concern is having to defend another factory in S. France from the U.S.A.  ie from a Gibraltar attack.

Remember, with the fighter stacks I mentioned and the Tac bomber firebrigade, you could easily counter attack and destroy any invasion in that area

These sound like really neat house rules. If the allies seem to win too many games over here we will probably use them. Potentially turning all of north africa over to the germans.

Tons of fun stuff with the french. Imagine the germans being able to move french soldiers around africa but the french turn back allied first time normany is landed in!

I play a bit of War At Sea as well. Reading the back of the french cards is entertaining. Ships escaping port and german capture with unfinished guns. Ships firing at americans landing in africa.

Heck, am i remembering right that the british landed in madagascar to liberate it from the french? Wasnt the HMS Barham or the Ramilles or some other old battleship there?

@Imperious:

Well Italy vs UK in Egypt area, slightly favors the Italians.

BUT UK plays before Italy and Italy can lose its fleet on UK1, then UK can move out of Egypt and funnel troops for the counterattack.

Italy is weaker in this game than in AA50. Look at the setup and turn order. If Italy messes up the first turn it can be over for them and like dominoes, Germany becomes more weak.

What do Italy purchase? Fighters get rid of the British navy in the Med or land units to defend and help in Europe.

I’ve said it many times, by why not do it again! :-D

2 Player Game
1. Germany, Japan and Italy
2. USSR, UK, ANZAC, US, China, and France

3 Player Game
1. Germany, Japan, and Italy
2. USSR, UK, and France
3. ANZAC, China, and US

4 Player Game
1. Germany and Italy
2. USSR, UK, and France
3. ANZAC, China, and US
4. Japan

5 Player Game
1. Germany and Italy
2. USSR
3. UK, France, and China
4. Japan
5. US and ANZAC

6 Player Game
1. Germany
2. Italy
3. USSR
4. US and ANZAC
5. Japan
6. UK, France, and China

Yeah

Also in 5 and 6 China can be with the Russians.

@calvinhobbesliker:

You don’t need an AA to defend an IC

Oh yea, brain fart I knew that.

One good use of SBR would be if either Anz/UK had enough ftrs w/in range of a mid sized Jap fleet using an island AB (ftrs) for cover. US could SBR the AB so the Jap ftrs can’t scramble. Then the minor powers could drill the Jap navy. The US would have to be willing to loose some ftrs though plus have enough bmrs (that survive) to make the hit. With my luck though I would have two US bmrs left and roll snake-eyes leaving the AB functional.