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Phone mostly.

Looking forward to seeing Peking China, in ruins after the next great war.

who is for Dr. Who, the poplular British sci-fi show that started the same year I did in 1963.  69 is for the world champion '69 Kansas City Chiefs.  Picture in my avatar is the ship I use for my TOS movie era sim USS Beowulf.  http://www.ussandromeda.us/Beowulf/sms-2.0.2-standard/

The thing is - this isn’t news. I’ve read about similar circumstances - innocent people fingered by mean neighbours and sent to be tortured and die in US prison camps. Even in medical journals.

Sadly this also undoubtably happened under Saddam as well - the only difference is that the US is now the criminal here. This is not to say that the US is as bad as Saddam was (this is more difficult to judge but IMO most US forces refrain from these practices). But no question in my mind that the US has not been acting with clean hands. The questions I have is exactly how widespread is the US misbehaving with regards to the big picture? Atrocities happen in all wars by all sides - war is hell. The clear difference now is that it gets reported more often. Maybe it happens (with US forces) more often than before, but again who knows for certain?

The other point is that sometimes, rarely, it may be necessary to resort to these sorts of tactics to prevent a worse disaster. When/if this is ever the case, I am glad I will never have to be the person to make this call (what if you are wrong :cry: ). But clearly in the case of Lyndie England, et al, this was a case of some evil miscreants who have not been punished sufficiently, IMO for their crimes.

This isn’t impressive at all. Spain had little where to go but up. They’re still Portugal’s black-sheep cousin (and Portugal was a 3rd world country 19 years ago). It’s not like he took a “great nation” and made it “greater”. After all, twice 2 pennies is only 4 pennies.

And the same could have been said about Canada when you speak of it’s economic growth. :wink:

Berard Cornwell-

The man is a genius- Sharpe’s series, Starbuck, Archer’s tale etc.

Jefe- if you are going to read AnnCoulter’s recent book then I
Highly reccomend Sam Tannenhaus’ biography Whittaker Chambers.

I read TR Frehenbach’s This Kind of War (it’s about the Korean War)
every June for the last 4 years.

I also reccomend, Stanley Karnow’s, Vietnam.

Recently, I’m reading Ernest R. May’s, Strange Victory. It’s about how the French lost against The Germans in 1940.

-Joseph Ellis’, Founding Brothers.

-John Earl Haynes & Harvey Klehr’s Venona:
Decoding Soviet Espionage in America.

And Reading the Lord of the Rings Books with my oldest.

i still find this really amusing. I went back to re-read the original quote, and now i can’t take it seriously at all. Am i the only one with this problem?

Hahaha… as F_alk would say, your German is very bad.

Mind you, i guess Xi and TG’s arguments over quotes belittles the intent of the original post, so i guess that’s appropriate

When I see a quote that I find inappropriate, I will deal with it. Us Americans don’t give up that easy.

“One of the striking differences between Fascism and Communism
is this: Fascism has inspired no great work of art…. No doubt,
Fascism is too vile and scurrilous an ideology to produce those
charities of the imagination which are essential to literate art.
Communism, even when it has gone venomous, is a mythology of the
human future, a vision of human possibility rich in moral demand.
Fascism is the ultimate code of the hoodlum; Communism fails
because it would seek to impose upon the fragile plurality of
human nature and conduct an artificial ideal of self-denial and
human purpose. Fascism tyrannizes through contempt of man;
Communism tyrannizes by exalting man above that sphere of private
error, private ambition, and private love which we call freedom.”

Hahaha, I think DasEwokSS would disagree with you on fascism (thank you for knowing the correct spelling).
Myths don’t come true, Communism will. There is no human purpose under communism? Give me a break. It would seem like it would have a more “humane” purpose. Be careful with human nature - it will surprise you. Also, Communism is freedom - compare that spectrum with fascism to see why.

Might as well use that forum. Only 3 threads will be moved.