Emperor_Taiki you made some good points there.
I think we need to discuss this game project one aspect at a time or else we will be all over the place and will not get things accomplished as fast as if we do it in a more organized fashion.
Since the actual forces(game pieces) are what seems to be on everybody’s mind, let’s start with those.
And to further narrow down the discussion, let’s start with land pieces:
Infantry 1-2-1-3 and behaves basically like any other AA game.
Cavalry 1-1-2-4 and has blitzing capabilities. I know that you disagree with the cost but I think with the blitzing capability and faster movement other people, at least I would, will be willing to pay the extra cost.
Artillery 2-2-1-4, makes infantry more powerful like AA, I think if we raise the cost to 5, then tanks would have to cost 6
Tanks 4-1-1-5 do we want this to be a tech or a regular unit.
AAGun 0-0-1-5 this could be a tech roll, or we could eliminate it, if it is eliminatedwe will definitely need an intercept/escort rule in my opinion.
We can discuss air and naval pieces after we get these issues hammered out.
We need to get as many opinions on this as possible because we are trying to design a game that most people will enjoy not just a few of us. Notice I said most because we wont be able to please everyone all the time not even ourselves.
Infantry 1-2-1-3
Cavalry 1-1-2-4 - Lets take out the blitz, but still have 2mp. I would like to promote a balanced force. Have them attack at a 2 for the first round to simulate a charge. 1 after that.
Artillery 2-2-1-5 - Lets go with Emperor Taiki’s idea of 5IPC. They should get special opening fire (no return fire), but normal on 2nd round etc.
Fighter 3-3-3-8 - Lets keep this and eliminate “spotting”. The higher att/def values should simply reflect this. Keep it simple.
Zeppelin 1-1-6-10- 8 seems too far for the scale.
If we take away the blitz property and yet still allow a movement of 2. Are you saying that the cavalry can move through 2 friendly territories, but cannot move through 2 unoccupied enemy territories and would instead have to stop to occupy the first territory even though there are no enemy forces present?
Interesting thread.
An Axis and Allies-style “Dr. Pepper and Dorritos” World War I game would be great!
The key thing to remember, as was mentioned before, is to keep the game simple and not too time-consuming.
I have 2 proposed land/air units charts for consideration.
Chart 1 - a little cheaper IPC cost
Infantry 1-1-1-2 - Infantry troops were the main units of the war, I believe even more so than in World War II, so this justifies their reduced cost. The infantry were not extremely effective though, so I dropped their defense to 1.
Cavalry 1-1-2-3 - No blitzing and no special attack rules for simplicity’s sake.
Artillery 2-2-1-4 - Use the “Surprise Strike” rule from AA50, they get preemptive shots every round, but this can be nullified by the enemy having a fighter in the battle. They do not increase infantry units attack.
Fighter 2-2-3-6 - No special rules other than that they nullify the artillery’s preemptive shot. After a map is made up, then we can decide if 3 movement is too little.
Zeppelin 1-1-6-10- No special rules. Actually I don’t know a lot about Zeppelins, so I bow to y’alls knowledge in this area.
Chart 2 - a more comparable to regular Axis and Allies IPC cost
Infantry 1-2-1-3 - No special rules.
Cavalry 2-1-2-4 - No blitzing and no special attack rules for simplicity’s sake.
Artillery 2-2-1-5 - Use the “Surprise Strike” rule from AA50, they get preemptive shots every round, but this can be nullified by the enemy having a fighter in the battle. They do not increase infantry units attack.
Fighter 3-3-3-8 - No special rules other than that they nullify the artillery’s preemptive shot. After a map is made up, then we can decide if 3 movement is too little.
Zeppelin 1-1-6-10- No special rules. Actually I don’t know a lot about Zeppelins, so I bow to y’alls knowledge in this area.
For aa and tanks, I agree with the majority that they should both be technological advances.
@Brain:
If we take away the blitz property and yet still allow a movement of 2. Are you saying that the cavalry can move through 2 friendly territories, but cannot move through 2 unoccupied enemy territories and would instead have to stop to occupy the first territory even though there are no enemy forces present?
Correct. Simulates mobility but keeps them cheap.
Interesting thread.
An Axis and Allies-style “Dr. Pepper and Dorritos” World War I game would be great!
The key thing to remember, as was mentioned before, is to keep the game simple and not too time-consuming.I have 2 proposed land/air units charts for consideration.
Chart 1 - a little cheaper IPC cost
Infantry 1-1-1-2 - Infantry troops were the main units of the war, I believe even more so than in World War II, so this justifies their reduced cost. The infantry were not extremely effective though, so I dropped their defense to 1.
Cavalry 1-1-2-3 - No blitzing and no special attack rules for simplicity’s sake.
Artillery 2-2-1-4 - Use the “Surprise Strike” rule from AA50, they get preemptive shots every round, but this can be nullified by the enemy having a fighter in the battle. They do not increase infantry units attack.
Fighter 2-2-3-6 - No special rules other than that they nullify the artillery’s preemptive shot. After a map is made up, then we can decide if 3 movement is too little.
Zeppelin 1-1-6-10- No special rules. Actually I don’t know a lot about Zeppelins, so I bow to y’alls knowledge in this area.
Chart 2 - a more comparable to regular Axis and Allies IPC cost
Infantry 1-2-1-3 - No special rules.
Cavalry 2-1-2-4 - No blitzing and no special attack rules for simplicity’s sake.
Artillery 2-2-1-5 - Use the “Surprise Strike” rule from AA50, they get preemptive shots every round, but this can be nullified by the enemy having a fighter in the battle. They do not increase infantry units attack.
Fighter 3-3-3-8 - No special rules other than that they nullify the artillery’s preemptive shot. After a map is made up, then we can decide if 3 movement is too little.
Zeppelin 1-1-6-10- No special rules. Actually I don’t know a lot about Zeppelins, so I bow to y’alls knowledge in this area.
For aa and tanks, I agree with the majority that they should both be technological advances.
WOW! You’ve made it really hard to choose… I think I actually like the cheaper version so we can have bigger battles. Maybe limit battles to two rounds simulating bog down? We can discuss specific combat rules later.
On the cheaper chart, I think we should still go 4-1-1-6 for tanks as they were expensive to produce even after the tech was achieved.
I believe Zeppelins were used for bombing and spotting, thus the zeppelin could take on the strategic bombing role and perhaps if we ant a spotting rule they could increase the comat value of artillery or AAguns if they are used.
WOW Imperious Leader that looks like a great game. I think it was mentioned earlier that somebody wanted something even more simple. What does the board look like? And where can I get the pieces to play it. Has this game been extensively play tested?
see the link. use the game to formulate new ideas.
Its basically perfectly balanced for about 4 years now.
Where is the WWI Map link?
I have seen that map before. It looks great. How much for a mounted one?
I don’t know ask your printer.
It’s for free download and i don’t sell these
I don’t know ask your printer.
It’s for free download and i don’t sell these
I thought that you sold gameboards on your website.
I don’t sell this even though i created it. I did it for people who want a WW1 game but could not make a decent one themselves. Pro bono work for AA community. Thats all.
It’s a complete game all you need to do is buy pieces. And they make them
I don’t sell this even though i created it. I did it for people who want a WW1 game but could not make a decent one themselves. Pro bono work for AA community. Thats all.
No wonder your karma is so high. I hope that life treats you well.
It’s a complete game all you need to do is buy pieces. And they make them
Where do I get the pieces, which pieces do I need, how many do I need with and without the use of chips?
give me a few on this. It will take time to get this info.
Well first issue, USA dont need nation specific pieces, since they joined the war only a few weeks befor it ended, and they even used British looking uniforms and helmets.
You are thinking of making a world war I game without USA included? That’s insane.
US declared war on 6 April 1917, and sent 4 million men into combat suffering 205,690 casualties before winning the war on 11 November, 1918
That’s 19 months at war. You should probably revisit your history books there kid.
I am going to print out IL’s WW1 map and start to accumulate pieces for the game.
Knowing where to get them would be helpful!
Thanks!
