I meant to do that.
Touting being one of the first modern democrocies, the French Government should be “of the people, by the people, for the people”
In WWII the french government threw its people under the bus
Let me reitterate, I dont despise the french, or the french fighting spirt….I regret the fact that when it came time for them to “put up theri dukes” and fight, they only went one round with the germans and threw in the towel
in boxing, you look down upon the man who throws in the towel
However; you feel bad for, yet respect the man who stays in the ring, against the odds and loses fair and square, even if its a TKO
Anyway to get back on subject, I agree with this statement.
I think the French just had a diffrent picture in how the next war would be fought…They stayed stationary and being the winner of WW I ,having a respectful Maginotline-Defence and thicker armored Tanks and better piercing rounds gives you some good hope that the next conflict will be solved well in your favor…BUT, what the Germans exercised in modern warfare at that time (blitzkrieg) was as they said breathtaking and everything above their imagination…I wouldn’t give the French bad credit for that. Everybody was stunned!..It took Stalin a couple of month to realize that he was invaded, by that time the Invaders were allraedy on their way to Kiev…
Yeah, but the Russians didn’t surrender.
@Brain:
Yeah, but the Russians didn’t surrender.
Keep in mind they didn’t really have much of a say in the matter :lol:
@Brain:
Yeah, but the Russians didn’t surrender.
That is correct, butt do remember there was only 40 million french and 200 million russians, and Sovjet Union territory was like 30 times larger than France, and had a very severe winter, too.
also if you visit http://www.dupyinstitute.org/ and look at the Captive Rate Study, you will see that the French did fight better than Italian and Russian soldiers. During the first phase of Operation Barbarossa, more than 3 million russian soldiers surrendered. So dont come with the “Russians never surrender” - sh*t BS talk.
@Brain:
Yeah, but the Russians didn’t surrender.
That is correct, butt do remember there was only 40 million french and 200 million russians, and Sovjet Union territory was like 30 times larger than France, and had a very severe winter, too.
also if you visit http://www.dupyinstitute.org/ and look at the Captive Rate Study, you will see that the French did fight better than Italian and Russian soldiers. During the first phase of Operation Barbarossa, more than 3 million russian soldiers surrendered. So dont come with the “Russians never surrender” - sh*t BS talk.
I’m talking about the country as a whole, not an isolated battle.
The French with British help didn’t last any longer than Poland. And Poland was being double-smashed.
naw france was just caught off gaurd. and you have to analize the political situation too. and most of thie best forces were on the line.
Oh and you think Poland wasn’t caught off gaurd. They put up a better fight, with less resources, than France.
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And Poland was being double-smashed.
yeah
I had a weekend like that once… but I think she said they were Japanese twins not Polish
It’s a good thing she cleared that up for you, it’s kind of hard to tell the difference between Japanese and Polish.
Anything’s possible… mind you Polish twins don’t appear on the “Ten Things To Do Before I Die” list.
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And Japanese twins do. I think any nationality twins will do.
You know if twins were involved that would invariably make for an awkward moment when you said one’s name at an inopportune time, you know what I mean.
You know if twins were involved that would invariably make for an awkward moment when you said one’s name at an inopportune time, you know what I mean.
Just a chance you have to take.
In order to get back on topic, I think you guys had better talk about French twins.
its over rated trust me
But on the international stage, the french screwed the pooch
After it was agreed with the joint declaration of war on germany by the UK and France, it was decided…
“Neither power shall surrender to germany unless the other consents to that surrender.”
When the german blitz cut off the Brits at Dunkirk and the road was open to Paris; what happened? Did france ‘need’ paris? was it their industrial base?, agricultural center? No…it was their cultural center, and when it was seriously threatened they surrendered, without even asking their allies or putting up resistance.
They caved to the Germans, and the Brits resented them for it, and the French resent the british for evacuating. In an alliance of convenience, driving a wedge bettwen the two parites (in this case the german blitz) is the best way to win. Divide and conquer so to speak.
France is looked down upon because, they could have fought on, it would be a struggle, a struggle for their country, however in surrendering they hoped their “nation” would be preserved, albeit under German occupation. The city of lights survived and so did millions of frenchmen, the musems and statues all endure to this day. But what does it say about a country not even willing to take up arms to protect its treasures, its people? a government that gives in to occupation, to survive as a nation in bondage. And herin lies the question, if the french didnt stand and fight for their own country, what does that say about it, is whatever cultural value it has worth fighting for? worth dieing for? Or are the french so progressive that they realize that these treasueres had to survive becuase they are so valueable, and surrender was the only option.
Yes and the french AND Brits should have opened a second front when we attacked Poland - neither of them did anything of value,…
so please don’t take a politicants pomise as thruth - they all lie.
The French were unable to continue the war and a “honorable” surrender helped to preserve much of Frances latter ability to FIGHT AGAIN…
