@Imperious:
yea thats what i figured… SS is preemptive strike like subs on first round.
Yes, I see that. Doenitz give one sub a first strike, wich it already have, even without a leader.
Then MacArthur let two infantry roll a preemptive strike. I dont see why. He made a nice surprice attack at Inchon during Korea War, but never during WWII.
Also Manstein let two tanks roll preemtive, and this figures when thinking on the “Backhand Blow”.
Eaker let one Bomber roll preemptive, and I agree with that.
Then we have Nagumo, who was a torpedo specialist and Commander of a Carrier force, and actually made a surprice attack at Pearl Harbour, but strange enough he have icon of a Battleship, no that dont figures.
Then MacArthur let two infantry roll a preemptive strike. I dont see why.
Marines is what he was getting at. Shock value?
Here is a good source for generals of WWII:
NEW IDEA
I dont see the point if Germany have one general that boost one tank, and Russia have one general that boost one of their tanks too. This will just even out the balance, and make generals pointless.
So how about each player have a pool with both bad and skilled generals. Lets say you need a general if you want to do combat moves. So you draw a general from your pool, and place him on the front where you want to combat move units. If you got a bad general, he will give your units a negative modifier, and you would want to replace him as soon as possible, but you will need him this turn just to make your moves.
Any comments ?
The units are not the same. The icons on the various leaders have unique modifiers for combat.
Plus you are only used on your own turn, so its not the case of having two generals having the same bonus in the same combat situation. And even if it was the dice will always be different and the modifier is only +1
You dont got my point, IL, the generals should be like the fortune cards from AA D-Day
OK but they should be helping a nation win. I hardly think they kept them employed if they constantly lost the battle…except for Goering and most Italian commanders.
@Imperious:
OK but they should be helping a nation win. I hardly think they kept them employed if they constantly lost the battle…except for Goering and most Italian commanders.
I’ve printed these out and play tested them on AA42 and it was interesting. We dished them out, one per turn. By the end of the game there were too many on the board it seemed. I think a limit of 3 per nation or something of the sort would work well. Anyone else have thoughts post play test?
Bill
One per nation, but both axis and allies should have the same number. Extra go to Germany, then Japan
Not more than 4 total per side.
Also, the defending general must suffer one combat round before retreating and his retreat can be in full or part.
I found some Generals on my hard drive from AARHE. Three pages but the files are too big and will not link here. Does any one know of the Generals that I am referring to? How do I make the pdf file small enough to link here? I tried loading them in a zip file to here but still didn’t work.
You need to proxy them with miniatures. These are not ‘files’ or cards.
These rules are a KISS solution that wont alter the game is a major way, but allow some flavor not unlike a NA
ON your turn you use the General by just placing it in an area and use it to move units and or combat
At the end of your turn to leave it in any land space so if it is attacked, it can retreat.
bump
I admittedly haven’t read the whole thread, but this concept I came up with a while ago might be of interest:
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=30016.0
I’ve played a few games with these rules and I think they add some flavor without being too too complicated.
Pages 25-26 of the rulebook for this game have a section on generals and field marshalls:
http://www.thewargame.com/rules/The War Game - WWII Basic Rules 1942 2nd Edition.pdf
I use these in my games.
The values of generals are on bottom.
The colors didn’t come out right and they are just painted to country’s color for now. They stand on a token so you can see them stand out in a group. Allow 1 general per territory only and there value = If general is worth a 10 then 10 pieces get a +1 on attack or defend. If two generals meet in combat they have to fight each other. If your game doesn’t have alot of pieces then you adjust your values of generals lower. The US and Japan have generals for navy too. Ships get a +1 on attack or defend.
Probably be to expensive for HBG to make these general pieces do to not making alot of them. But a token would work with a pic of general and a value and bottom side.
I use these because its simple piece with a few rules.
SS those generals SUCK. I bought them too. The best quality is Rocco ww2 Military leaders ( Check HBG site if they still have them). Just have them painted and you glue them to roundels ( they will stick very well don’t worry).
Ha Those are the ones you showed me to buy awhile ago. :-D
Thanks I’ll check it out.
Ya right….generals are poor.
SS where didn’t found those figures?
