Operation Sealion on Germanys first turn?

@rjclayton:

As always, it depends what the board looks like after Moscow falls.  Typical board would probably have Japan holding all of UK’s territories except Canada and Great Britain.  With an income that low how long could UK really hope to last against a combined GER/JAP with income over 100 IPC?

It depends on how persuasive British ladies are.

Rawr.

Anyways - I already posted regarding what I think Axis should do after Russia falls.

Yes.

An amphibious invasion only requires the sea zone it is being launched from to be cleared of enemy units.

If the Brits leave the English Channel empty, Operation Sealion is one step closer to success.  It does not matter if every other sea zone on the map has enough allied ships to fill the ocean, all that matters is the English Channel has no defending units.

For this discussion, submerged submarines do not count as opposing units.  Fighters do, even if their CV is sunk.

If Russia puts 4 INF on Caucuses in R1, and amphib is out.

What I wrote abvoe was for a single INF left in Caucuses.

Also, that does NOT preclude an Egypt attack, expecially with ANY bid to Africa.  Skip the DD in SZ15 and jsut use Balkans FIG, 2 INF and 1 ARM from Libya.  Still a 70% clear and 60% win.  And if the Ukraine FIG is still alive for the battle it is an 89% win.

Actually Switch, 8 infantry would have made a world of difference over 2 fighters.  The W. Russia Stack would be infinitaly more defensable and Caucasus is really never under any real threat.  And even if it does fall, it’s not like Russia’s planning on making more then 8 units a round anyway for a few rounds.

For Revised…
Western:  2 INF, 2 ARM, 1 FIG, 1 AA
Southern:  2 INF, 1 ART, 1 ARM, 1 AA, 1 IC
Germany:  3 INF, 2 ARM, 1 FIG, 1 BOM, 1 AA, 1 IC
Norway:  3 INF, 1 FIG
Eastern:  2 INF, 1 ARM, 1 FIG
Balkans:  2 INF, 1 ARM, 1 FIG
Belorussia:  3 INF
West Russia:  3 INF, 1 ART, 1 ARM
Ukraine:  3 INF, 1 ART, 1 ARM, 1 FIG
Algeria:  1 INF, 1 ART
Libya:  1 INF, 1 ARM
SZ5:  1 TRn, 2 SUB, 1 DST
SZ14:  1 BB, 1 TRN
SZ8:  1 SUB

@Jennifer:

@Infantry:

Now that you can target tech rolls IT would distort the game. Too much would rely on whether Germany or Russia got IT first.

Well, if they had left it in and not altered Hvy Bombers except to limit then to best of 3 dice on SBR runs, it would have evened out.

I think the reference was to the tech that allowed you to save 1 IPC per unit.

Spend 20 IPC on tech, get a slightly better than 50% chance.

Now you need to buy 20 units to make that back.  20 infantry now cost you 40 IPC.

Simple.

Correction to my previous post:  I should’ve said the entire high value (IPC-wise) German empire.  That should make more sense now…  :lol:

Sealion is not the way to go.

1. Odds not in your favor: A. survives: 22%  D. survives: 73%
2. If you fail, you have just lost the game.
3. If you succeed, you will have lost more units than the money you will get from UK, while letting Russia get ahead in the builds.
4. You will lose Gbr against the UK or US counterattacks. If you retake it, you will lose it again.

According to odds and some of my calculations, this strategy will win you the game less than 20% of the time.