Difference between AA50 and AAR?

Thanks for the clarification.

I know this post is pretty old, but I agree Karl.

I have a friend that I played endless AA games with a long time ago (classic & revised days). We played AA50 a couple of times when it first came out, but he hasn’t played now for years. He is interested in playing again, so I dug out my AA50 game (had to replenish units I stole over the years). We are planning a game in the next week or so and I’m looking forward to playing AA50 again. I thought about going with 1942 2nd edition, but AA50 is so much better IMO. Who knows maybe he’ll make the jump to G40 after……

Thanks for sharing the info on the Bob Semple tank, that was a fun little piece of trivia to learn about!  I guess it was an attempt to beat plowshares into swords… :-D

Sounds like they’d have been better off trying to convert some kind of car or light truck into an armored car, though, as tractors just aren’t geared right to make into tanks…

As to the Brits & ANZACs and their Matilda’s: I guess it’s kind of nice to get them a different model for variety/ visual appeal, but the fact remains that the Matilda is really a decisive step down in quality vs. the Sherman… and the Brits actually used more Shermans than any other tank.  I’d have been much happier if they’d chosen the Cromwell; it was at least not outclassed by the Sherman (not to mention nearly every German tank…)

We have 2 spots open for this coming Sunday in CT.  PM me if interested.

Thanks,
Brian

Well, you guys might be missing something here.  You do not need to agree that the game is imbalanced, or have a consensus on what bid is necessary to balance it, to have a consensus on what I am talking about.
Example: Person A may think the game is already balanced and that a bid is not necessary, Person B thinks an Allied bid of 6 ipcs is needed when you play with NOs, and Person C is nutty and thinks that 21 ipcs are needed for the allies with NOs.  But all of these three people may in fact agree that a bid of 2 infantry in europe would be equivalent to a bid of 2 naval warships off the coast of america.
Agreeing on what to do to balance the game is not a pre-requisite to agreeing on certain bids types being equivalent.

Or, to think about it in a different way, lets think of this as a Ratio.
I’m just going to throw this out there, but lets say you have a Bid of X.
If you use it on the “front line” in either Europe or Africa/MiddleEast, then all you get is X.
If you use it not on the front line in Europe/Africa/MiddleEast, or you use it on the front line in China, then you get X1.5
If you use it not on the front line in China, or you use it in the Atlantic on Navy, UK main island Air/Land, then you get X2
If you use it on Pacific navy, or American Continent Land/Air, then you get X*2.5.

Now, as you can see, if you think X should be zero, then they all end up as zero.  If you think X should be 6, then you could either get 2 europe/egypt inf, or 3 chinese inf, or a cruiser in the atlantic, or a DD + a sub in the pacific.  If you think X should be 10, etc, etc.

Thank you all for your comments so far :-)

i agree the game is great. i’m not looking for a glorified micro-machines set. but when i bought AAR a couple yrs ago. I had to take some of my acs and hold them over a burner to soften the plastic enough to bend it straight……NO B*ST!!!

there are all kinds of deformed parts in there that I had to fix. AA50 hasn’t been that bad. but pretty close. i’ve had to pull my hobby knife far more than i’d like.

do you want to play with a b-17 that came out of the box…out of the plastic bag…with wings that were f*****g bent in neary half.

Yes, I just wish convoy zones would have been but in the game in the first place like AAE. That was a great idea to get the Battle of the Atlantic in the game. AA50 should have been AAE and AAP combined with a few modifications. Still looks awesome though. I see IL has come up with a convoy system in his AA50 house rules. I think the simplest way to do it would be to be key sea zones and put control markers in them. If an enemy unit enters it you cover it with your marker. Each convoy could be worth 1 or 2 IPC’s. Depending on what worked better. If you get it back then remove the enemy’s marker.

U.S.
Sea Zones - #65, 56, 55, 18, 19, 20, 10, 53, 56 ,50

UK- #1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11, 12, 28, 35, 46, 47, 42, The East Indies Zones, can’t see numbers from pictures

Italy-#14

Germany -#5

Russia-#4

Japan-#61, 62, 50, 36, 60, The East Indies Zones, can’t see numbers from pictures