Germany Basic Strategies, Concepts and Ideas

Only played Germany once but I like the Karelia rush on G1 except I have to disagree w/Jen on strafing Egypt…numbers just don’t work imo?  I would tranny the German tank/inf from France down to Africa for  a G2 assault!  I wouldn’t be that concerned w/English reinforcements because Japan should be putting the squeeze play on them.  India and the other Brit territories are more important to Japan than chasing the Chinese around!  I would send the 2 U-boats/1 ftr to hit the Cr/DD off of Spain on G1 to keep the Italian navy safe!  Italy keeps popping amphib assaults on Cauc while the Germans concentrate there as well!  Karelia is much easier for the Allies to reinforce imo!  Still a little disappointed that Germany has to hold on til big brother Japan gets there but its a great game nevertheless!!

yes with this correction, your German guide is pretty solid.

@Cmdr:

bear in mind this was written about 80 games ago when I was even less experienced than I am now (since no one is ever a master, certainly not until a year has gone by) but the original idea was to leave France with only an infantry (forcing England to attack it with more than an infantry) and build up infantry and armor with Germany to follow up your attack with Russia

Italy would be responsible for liberating and eventually preventing the fall of France.

That was the original idea.

Ah, ok.  I haven’t played too many games as yet, but it seems to me a bit too strong for UK if they’re able to get that extra income for even just one turn - it seems they would use it to build a bunch of extra men and transports to threaten again next turn, etc.

Instead of taking Karelia, I use an interesting allocation of German units that accomplishes two things: 1) Ensure that any counterattack by Russia on R1 against German starting tanks are long-odds fights, and 2) Have all 6 starting tanks in range of Karelia on G2.

Allocation:
Ukraine: 3 INF from Bulgaria; 1 FIG from Poland
East Poland: 2 INF from Poland; 1 ART, 2 ARM from Bulgaria
Baltic States: 2 INF, 1 ART, 2 ARM from Poland, 1 INF, 1 ART from Germany, 2 ARM from Czechoslovakia

The downside to that allocation is that the southern part of the front is going to be held pretty weakly until the G1 buys start showing up.  Therefore, it is Italy’s job to push a few units east to stand on Bulgaria until they can be replaced with German units, at which time the Italian units will be in a good position to be taken away by transports anyway.

I just saw questioneer’s pic. All I have to say to you is:

GOOOOO BLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUE!

Great discussion.

It’s very tough to choose which British units to attack.  I have a hard time allowing the destroyer/tranny off Canada to live, since it would be easy to kill it with 2 subs or just 1 bomber.  But no fighters can reach, and if I only send 1 sub that attack could fail.  Anyway, it seems like a good bet to destroy at least one of the British transports so there’s minimal threat of a landing that could destroy the German air force.

So which target takes priority–the BB/tr or the DD/tr?  It’s hard to clear the Atlantic without the bomber but I need that bomber in Egypt–success in that battle seems critical for Axis war aims and the bomber is the unit that swings the odds in Germany’s favor.

When I play as Germany I attack bold on G1, like most. I don’t worry too much about my fleet or navy. Every turn I get one fighter and however many other inf/art pairs I can get. By turn 3 I have a massive wave of planes, inf, and artillery that the russian player really gets mad at.

@Uncle_Joe:

I’m not really sure its ever a good idea to let the Brit BB live on turn 1. It probably the only time you’ll be able to catch it alone. Killing the TR with it is just icing on the cake. It will require at least one of your planes however (and the 2 subs). But I’d rather leave the DD/TR alone than the BB/TR. 27 IPCs is too tasty to leave floating around. :)

what bout seazone 12?
if you don’t kill it, they’ll kill italy fleet

@Frontovik:

@Uncle_Joe:

I’m not really sure its ever a good idea to let the Brit BB live on turn 1. It probably the only time you’ll be able to catch it alone. Killing the TR with it is just icing on the cake. It will require at least one of your planes however (and the 2 subs). But I’d rather leave the DD/TR alone than the BB/TR. 27 IPCs is too tasty to leave floating around. :)

what bout seazone 12?
if you don’t kill it, they’ll kill italy fleet

Without the Egypt bid….I feel ok skipping 12.  But with the bid I can’t be confident I will knock out the Brit fighter…hence attacking 12 is necessary.  Bummer…but one of the ways the bid changes up the game.

apperently, i’m the only not-risky guy :-)
i prefer killing british destroyer east of england with sub and cruiser
2 subs, 1 fighter and 1 bomber to sz 12
take out all 3 eastern europe countries
hold france

doubting wether attack egypt or not.
if you do, sz 12 is more risky without bomber, but perhaps still acceptable?