Chinese figther and german AA-guns

@axis_roll Or the optional escorts and interceptors rule.

@mosuper:

As I understand it, the answer is no but would love the move official people to weigh in.

I suspect that the rule as I understand it is a bit cleaner:

If a germany falls falls (say to UK) then all territory belonging to Germany stays German. Suppose, all while Berlin is UK hands, US takes France ––> US gets France. If next, Japan takes France, then Japan gets to claim France. If next, Berlin is liberated, then France immediately goes back to Germany.

And, for factories, I think the rule is:

A country can only use an IC in a territory that they controlled at the beginning of their turn.

Some please correct me if I’m not getting the rule right.

All above is correct.

@mosuper:

What about when german units are available in a german country and Japanese units move in. Does Japan get to claim it or is it only when no German units are there?

In order for Japan to conquer (versus liberate) a German controlled territory after Berlin has fallen, the territory has to be taken by an allied power.  Just moving Japanese units into a Germany territory does nothing to the ownership of the territory, whether Berlin was lost or not.

Will this work? (Of course it will need to be resized.)

Note: AA50 uses the Iranian Roundel (Green, White, then Red) instead of the Actual Italian Roundel (Red, White, then Green)
Technically both are incorrect as far as WWII history is concerned, but if you use the image I posted you will match the roundel AA50 uses.

I think it’s pretty clear how AA guns work from reading their unit profile in the Rulebook.  However, I agree that the defense value listed could be a bit misleading.  On the other hand, this value has been in place since Revised (we playtesters are so awful that we can actually go back in time and screw things up in the past  :roll:), and to my knowledge this is the first time that this question has ever been asked.  Maybe it would be better if the defense value value were listed as “Special”.

As for ICs, they’re defense is “NA” because they never fire under any circumstances, which is not true of AA guns.

What a scam! :s

@Krieghund:

An IC in a Chinese territory doesn’t count as a “Chinese unit” for purposes of restricting Chinese reinforcement placement.  While China does control the IC, it can’t use it, so it’s not a “unit” as far as China is concerned.

@Veqryn:

I believe Manchuria would go to Germany if Germany liberates it from the Chinese.

Correct, though actually Germany would be capturing it, not liberating it.

I actually has something like this happen. Russia had been overrun and an italian tank took manchuria. I asked and the territory went to italy.

free 1d6 dmg to each IC in range is pretty good if you ask me. japan and usa need to do some shuffling if they get this, but everyone else gets to start shooting right away