AA50 on top in BGG rank

Heading back up to your logic up above–its not “units that can (in some situations) retreat”. It is units in this situation that can retreat (attacking tts yes defending ones no). That rule is written as it is to cover the situations where submerged subs, unhittable units (subs vs planes) or amphibious assaults where some units can retreat and others cant.

As a lawyer–I get what you’re trying to do and say that the rule doesn’t say what its supposed to say. As Krieg points out, that’s up for debate. Many lawsuits are about this kind of thing.

But that’s not because its dogma Canon law its because the other outcome is insensible, contradictory, gamey, requires a tortured reading of the language devised over multiple editions and revisons of the game to try and cover so many different situations.

there is no such thing as a perfect document try to write one

@Red:

Re: Looking for a copy of AA50- New or Used

« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2011, 05:36:44 pm »

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Seriously, your best bet to get this fantastic version of the game is to download the maps that IL has made and have it printed out.  Combine that with the wonderful player made setup-charts.

Then, buy yourself 2 copies of AA Spring 1942.

Take the Germans from one copy, spray them brown for Italy (Start with several light coats of Krylon fusion primer followed by several light coats of Krylon fusion brown).

Viola, you have yourself AA 50th Anniversary Edition.

Finding one for cheap any more is going to be ridiculously hard with it having been a limited production.

Where can I find “the maps that IL has made”?
Are these something that can be printed and then laminated?
I too love this game and cannot find a copy for a resonable price.
I like the idea of making the italians by painting them.  I’m just not sure where to get a copy of the actual map.
any help or links would be greatly appreciated.
thanks in advance.

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=23325.0

Thanks Krieg, obliging as ever.

There is a thread in the Find Players and Game Discussion section for people looking for AA50 games.

More than 10, I have about 7 games going on at the moment.

Flying Tiger is correct.  Sorry if my original post was unclear.  :oops: I’ll try again.

You place an existing fighter on a new carrier by moving the fighter in either combat or noncombat movement, whichever applies, into the sea zone where the new carrier will be mobilized.  Air units don’t actually “land” until the end of the Mobilize New Units phase, though they must be in the space in which they will land by the end of noncombat movement.  The active player may only move pieces from one space to another during the combat movement and noncombat movement phases.

In Classic A&A, you can’t place fighters (new or existing) on new carriers at all.  In Revised, you can place existing fighters on a new carrier in the way you described in your original post.  In LHTR, it works the same way as it does in AA50.

@Imperious:

Larry has stated many times that the units don’t generally fit standard military models for classic formations (divisions, corps, army) and in some cases these are corps and others they are armies. They are not the same in every case, allowing for the corps in Africa to be symbolized as perhaps 2-3 units, while in the Soviet union one infantry may represent an army ( 3-5 corps).

Yes, IL thanks,
I have been reading those old posts.  I note he (Larry Harris) stated the Naval units abstraction was a greater dilution of unit strength, or a direct correlation to vessel numbers from standard representation of Classic fleet/squadron/Battle groups.  I am thinking more in chess terms, where tempo or position is sometimes of more value then individual pieces.

I am beginning to wonder if the Heavy Bomber rule that has some people bent so out of shape is in there to compensate for the large boost that attaining National Objectives gives the Axis.  As a guess, it is going to be easier for the Axis to attain their objectives, and more productive to them than for the Allies to attain their objectives, which do not appear to give them anywhere the same boost.