AA50 Rules Errata and Q+A

question:  UK1 - there is a german sub in z12.  if the UK wished to attack the sub with a lone destroyer from z9 AND amphibiously assault alg from Z12, what happens if the sub hits first in z12?  does this disallow the amphibious assault?  i’m guessing that since a transport can ignore a sub and move through it’s zone, the amphibious assault can occur first, before the sea battle, but if the player wanted to conduct the sea battle first and if the sub held the zone without loss, since the sea battle was lost, can the amphibious assault still occur?

thank you.

Subs can only be ignored during movement.  If you attack a sea zone, all units in the sea zone belonging to the attacker and defender will be involved.  As with any amphibious assault, the sea battle must be fought first.  If the sub hits first, the transport must retreat or be destroyed.

If you don’t want to take a chance on the invasion being repelled, don’t attack the sub.

@Krieghund:

Subs can only be ignored during movement.  If you attack a sea zone, all units in the sea zone belonging to the attacker and defender will be involved.  As with any amphibious assault, the sea battle must be fought first.  If the sub hits first, the transport must retreat or be destroyed.

If you don’t want to take a chance on the invasion being repelled, don’t attack the sub.

he can conduct the amphibious assault without killing the sub first, thereby not risking loosing transport?

Yes, he can choose to ignore the sub.

does western canada touch sea zone 1?

No.

@Krieghund:

No.

thank you, that’s good to know.

I have a question on AA-fire.

Do AA guns fire during fly overs (during a combat move)?

It can up in a game.

Situtation:

AA gun on France and AA gun on Ger.

UK ftrs (in Bul) flyover Ger and attack Fra.  
Do the Germany AA guns get a chance to fire before France’s?

Nope… those Spitfires are flying too high and not near those AA’s in Germany.

Bummer.

So an AA in Persia, doesn’t protect Cauc/Kaz from J ftrs in Sz 34?

Wow.

@DarthMaximus:

Bummer.

So an AA in Persia, doesn’t protect Cauc/Kaz from J ftrs in Sz 34?

Wow.

That’s right.  It was one of the MAJOR changes from the Revised edition.

Wish I knew it a little earlier.  Lol!

@Global-commander:

@Krieghund:

No.

thank you, that’s good to know.

in 1942 set up, is solomen Islands considered an original jap territory since they start the game controlling it?

@Global-commander:

@Global-commander:

@Krieghund:

No.

thank you, that’s good to know.

in 1942 set up, is solomen Islands considered an original jap territory since they start the game controlling it?

No.  You go by what is printed on the map (so original territories are the same in 1941 and 1942).  It is an original UK territory, and won’t count for that NO.

Could someone please answer this question:

Setup:
there is a japanese fleet in Z36 with a destroyer
there are japanese ground units on FIC
the USA owns PHI
the USA puts a submarine in Z36 during noncombat

Question:  on the Japanese turn, can the Japanese use the destroyer to attack the submarine AND load units to a transport from Z36 to attack PHI?

As I read the rules, if the Japanese ignore the USA submarine, they can load units in Z36 during the combat phase.

Cheers

Yes.  Enemy subs can always be ignored during movement when there are no enemy surface warships present.

But is it possible that the US moves a sub in sz36 during NCM, since there is a destroyer, I guess it cancels the sub ability no ?

Subs can always move into or out of a sea zone containing an enemy destroyer.  They may not move through one, as their movement stops when they enter such a zone.

Even Yoshi didn’t know that rule.  That was a big eye opener when you clarified it on the 1940 thread, Kevin.  I don’t think there are very many players that understand you can move a sub into a zone with an enemy destroyer, during noncombat.  It’s good that this has come up in both threads.

So, does this mean that a sub can always dive?
In other words, the DD’s presence does not negate the ability to dive.

that is the only way to explain how a sub can move into a SZ in NCM:  diving avoids any combat.