New units announced for eastern front!

It’s ok. That’s what I voted but in retrospect, I probably should have at least said “I like it.”

With “The European Battle of the SS”, “The battle for Narva” and the Demansk Pocket all strongly repelled by divisions of the Waffen SS, I was really hoping for more infantry that would go deeper into members of the Waffen SS. Even going into specific divisions that did outstanding like Totenkopf, Das Reich, Leibstandarte and even notorious foriegn legions like Wiking.

Just on a side note, I also think the Weihrmacht Oberleutnant is still WAY too many points. I could maybe see 10 but 13 is ridiculous.

They should have an SS Oberleutnant. Also, while the Allies have a number of partisan troops, some of which are really good, they don’t repressent the Anti-partisan units recruited by the SS on the Eastern Front very well. These volunteer units played a very significant role in repelling other partisans and Russians. In addition to that I wish they would have gone deeper into the Russian NKVD units used.

On the other hand, one can’t complain too much. The Germans are excellent in this game. My main complaint is if the Allies (Russia) can use partisans to deploy anywhere on side hexes of the board, with an urban combat bonus then the Germans should be able to symolize the anit-partisan units they raised that successfully repelled a significant part of this activity with that same bonus.

@Motdc:

With these new rules, you cannot start the game with your 88 or Bofors loaded on a transport, move to a drop location on turn 1, and dismount it.

How is that not broken!?

Agreed, this needs to be fixed.

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Thanks.

Also, how long do the games run?
The AH site says 30-90 minutes, but for what size battle is that?

If you don’t count the time to formulate your armies, games rarely last only 30 minutes. 30 minutes is usually for a scenario that gets you into the action right away. Tournament games usually last between 60 and 90 minutes. Recreational games can last up to 2 hours if you’re taking your time. You’re first few games will probably last 2 hours.

Not for what point total he wants to play. It’s usually 45 minutes-1 hour/ 100 points you do. At 250 point armies, which is reaching the limit for point totals maintaining game balance (post 300 you’ll see huge balance issues), expect to play and hour and a half- 2 hours, maybe more in the beginning as you learn the rules. It also depends on the scenario you’re playing.

@Garfunkle:

What size is the standard playing surface?

Well, normally it’s the 2x2 maps they give you. But you won’t be able to play on that surface with the point totals you want to do. You’ll need at least one more starter set to have the ability to play on 4x2 maps or 3x3. Hell, I sometimes consider getting a third starter set for even more maps, as sometimes I feel like 4x2 isn’t big enough. I play 150-200 point battles.

@Garfunkle:

Is there good after market support for terrain and miniatures?

The terrain are maps that come with the game. Some people eventually play using 3-d terrain, but then you have to either play using houserules, or go out and buy hex-terrain, which is a whole new set of expenses.

@Garfunkle:

What scale is 15 mm anyway?

Basically 1:120. It’s more like 1:121, but 1:120 is the accepted number for buying terrain for the game.

@Garfunkle:

Are these plastic minis easy to mod and repaint?

Yes.

@Garfunkle:

I would like to have the ability to field a 250 point army

That’s like fielding a 6,000 point army in Warhammer: it’s really big and might make the game take longer than you want. Before making any army goals, play the game a few times. Having a crapload of miniatures to choose from for army building is sweet, but actually fielding 250 points might be hefty for you, since you mentioned that your kids impede gaming somewhat. 150 points is usually big enough to have alot of fun and see lots of units, but small enough that the game doesn’t last forever.

Welcome aboard. May you make every cover save and ignore enemy Superior Armor… :)

-=Grim=-

I like the Puma too, but it’s a little overpriced.

The Hetzer actually seems to have a good price; it’s not paying the standard extra points for being German like the Panzer IV G had to.

Paratroopers, Armoured/Scout Cars, even Heavy Tanks firing AI at it all work well.  I’ve found the best units are the bikes and polish cavalry.

The trick is not to let the Bofors get it’s points worth or more, so don’t expose units unnecessarily to it.

I’m having trouble finding what years accurately reflect units Nationalist China can historically use. Do you happen to have any years for all the remaining units?

Sdkfz 222 (Germany) - 1939
20mm flak (Germany) - 1939
P-40 Tomahawk (USA) -1939
P-51D Mustang (USA) - 1945
T-26b (SU) - 1939
IL-10 Sturmovik (SU)
T-34/76 (SU)
SU-122 (SU)
SU-76 (SU)

The best that I can come up with right now is the following:

http://www.axisandallies.org/node/37