Declaring carrier movement…

Ah right of course, I really should not post so close to waking up!  So it was as I suspected, a defending plane may use a SINGLE movement to find a place to land, so no land in an adjcent SZ would be legal.  Thanks.

The page 7 reference is to the chart at the bottom of the page called “Spaces on the Game Board”.  It defines an island group as a game board space.  A land territory is also defined as a game board space, so the definition on page 8 of an island as a territory located inside a sea zone also defines it as a separate game board space.

There’s also this FAQ entry:

Can a fighter take part in a naval battle in a sea zone and then in a battle for the island in that sea zone?
No. The island is not part of the sea zone; it’s a different map space that is adjacent to the sea zone but not part of it.

@TATCCITW:

Yeah but what if they attacked? What if there were subs present and they submerged.
And the other possibility I was thinking of, let say that Ger has a fleet next to Uk in SZ7. Uk has two fighters four spaces away from SZ7. Can those fighters attack when a CV has been purchased knowing they’d land there if they survived?

The fighters could legally attack, since the placement of the carrier would allow them a landing spot.  However, since they used all of their movement to get to the battle, they would have none left to retreat, so it would be a fight to the death.  The fighters would either clear the sea zone (including possible submerging by subs) or be destroyed.  If the fighters survive, the carrier must be placed in the sea zone.  If they don’t the carrier could still be placed in the sea zone, or it could be placed in another sea zone if there is another one available.

Edit:  Just to be clear, this answer applies only to LHTR, as using all of a fighter’s movement for combat movement would be legal under the box rules only if an existing carrier moved into the sea zone during either Combat or Noncombat Movement.

BTW, that submarine does not become useless once the Germans lose the ability to win against the Allied navy/navies.

I like to send it to Southern Africa to ‘persuade’ Japan not to make a Brazil run, at least, force Japan to commit more to a Brazil run then what is normal and optimal.  It also keeps Japan honest by not leaving transports out there undefended.

And, finally, I’ve had a situation where Japan FORGOT the Russian submarine was down there by Madagascar and been able to attack his battleship and 3 transports with 3 fighters and a submarine. Odds are, he only gets one hit, you get 2, that’s a good trade!  Japanese transport which is useful for Russian submarine which is not so useful. (I actually got 3 hits to his 1 that time, but I was lucky.)

Sanya33, you may see the thing in the following way if the fighter belong the same nationality of the Aircraft Carrier.
At the start of that nation turn fighters from carrier are launched and start their “fly operations”. They are in the air upon the same sea zone in wich the carrier is. From that moment they can go in combat, the same in wich you, in case, send the AC or in another, on sea or on land. They can also stay in air in the sea zone until the end of non combat move.
At the very end of non combat move you must land your fighter somewhere. So they must reach a territory or a sea zone in wich they can legally land: a territory you own from the start of the turn or the same carrier from wich they start, or another carrier, even one of an allied nation.
Or, if they moved to fight a battle in a sea zone, without the carrier, the AC can move and they perform a “rendez vous” to land.
Summarizing the fighters and the AC act independently for all the turn and are not bound in doing the same movement.

Never mind… was thinking Revised…

Can’t reach 60 in 2 moves from Hawaii. Hawaii is a seperate area from the sea zone surrounding it.

ydavid is correct