British counterattack in EGY on UK1

Myself it really depends on what Germany does, though my standard moves are, Dest from SZ35 to SZ59, Sub from SZ40 to SZ45, The Subs a 50/50, some people like to take the carrier to the tran as well but, I prefer the Dest Alone. If Africa is going good, Namely if I can retake EGY, then the tran in SZ40 takes two inf from AUS and invades New Guinea (Something nice to try) If I cannot retake EGY I like to use the Tran to pick up 2 INF from AUS and then move to SZ30, then on UK2 drop them anywhere along the Africa coast (Even Persia if it needs them). If Germany takes EGY and you “can” retake it, then do it bringing 2 inf from IND, 1 INF from TRJ and the Fighter from SZ35 (You can also bring your Bomber but I usually don’t). Otherwise I like to stack 2 inf in TRJ and the 3 Indian Inf and A-A gun to Persia. The AC stays with the Tran wherever it decides to go. If Germany is stupid and doesn’t take EGY, then smile :lol: happily and move the INF from TRJ into it, stack 4 + A-A gun in Persia, move the FIG to EGY and move the Tran and AC to SZ33 (Out of reach of the IJN).
The SAF INF always moves up, regardless of what you do.

Yea, but odds are you are not going to do both unless you think you can win both.

Besides, it really isn’t very difficult to take out 2 submarines, a transport and a destroyer.  Even if Germany puts 2 fighters and a carrier in there, you can just use the Americans to hit them and then come in next round with England for a shore invasion of Germany, E. Europe or Karelia.  Or just forgo an invasion and stack troops from England into Norway after the battle.  No rule that you cannot move troops into a formerly enemy held sea zone and land them into friendly territory after a battle during non-combat.

Glad to finally know that.  That sure put a cramp on my purchases when I was the UK player.  12 IPCs was a *@#$%!

RB

@Jennifer:

Coulda sworn I amended that in later posts to not have a british invasion of North Africa on UK1 and a joining of the US/UK fleets in Sea Zone 8 instead.  If not, I meant too.  (Perhaps the filter kicked it out because of a perceived bad word?)

Anyway, a UK build of 3 fighters with a consolidation of US and UK fleets in Sea Zone 8 cripple Germany’s ability to do anything more then take some more of Africa and hope to hold out against Russia.  On UK 3 you should be able to sink the Baltic Fleet and make life safe for Transports throughout the Atlantic Ocean.  (5 Fighters, 1 Bomber, 1 Battleship, 2 Transports should take out 2 submarines, 1 destroyer, 1 transport, 1 carrier and 2 fighters.)

Oh, OK then.  Well, if you united at London, then German invasion of London is out.

For the rest - not . . . quite.  Because once an Axis player sees that the Allies have massed air, and have any kind of serious navy near the Baltic fleet, you have a couple options.

1.  If there is NOT a serious navy near the Baltic fleet (say it’s just a lone battleship and 2 transports), you just send the German air force to kill everything.  Lose a fighter or two.  It hurts, but you can rebuild a fighter or two that turn.

2.  If there IS a serious navy near the Baltic fleet (US/UK fleet), you can attack with German air and the Baltic fleet as fodder.  The massed air is usually on London, where it can’t help defend.  You take a huge chunk out of the Allied combined fleet, and usually lose maybe one or two fighters, if there wasn’t an Allied AC there.  If there WAS an Allied AC there, you could then think about building more navy (probably not recommended in most games anyways, but ACs aren’t all that great on attack, so at least the Allies spent 32 IPC on 2 units with  a combined attack value of 2).

But even after 2., there is usually some Allied fleet wandering around the Pacific that’s enough to deter attacks from the German air force.  So the transports are safe anyways; it’s just that the Allies lost a bit more navy.

Russia is not in smolders after 3 turns, thats for sure.

Japan takes forever to get to Moscow and Germany cannot afford to Hit Russia to hard to early or risk loosing there initial offensive units.

Swtich our match will happen one day. I might bring out the real board for that match, unless you decide to install the battlemap in the time being

But iwth a significant fleet in the Med for England, you secure Africa and, if you put an IC in Africa, you can harass the southern border.  If you want too.  Or just build up to invade Europe by way of Caucasus

In the game I am playing at the moment (against a fairly inexperienced Gemany), Germany did not attack Egypt.  He used his BB and transport (and some fighters) to attack the UK Med BB and lost his transport in the battle.  He had bought a sub, transport and destroyer and placed them in the S.Eur seazone.

I (as UK) chose to defend Africa.  I picked up an inf from India and one from Persia and transported them to Egypt.  The inf from Trans-Jordan also joined them. The Indian destroyer was sent to destroy the Kwang transport. The Indian carrier was moved to the seazone above Egypt.  The fighter from Indian carrier, the fighter from egypt and the destroyer in the med attacked his little fleet under S.Eur.  I was only going to attack 'til I had sunk the transport, but got lucky and killed them all on the first round.

One fighter landed in Egypt while the other landed on the carrier (which reinforced Egypt on the following round) and the S.African infantry started on his way north to join the imposing army in Egypt.

America landed in Algeria with his forces from E.USA.

On Germany’s next turn, he chose to attack the American forces in Algeria, and although he wiped them out, his forces were also wiped out.

We are now on round 5 and with Japan threatening Africa, I have decided to abandon Egypt and make for Caucus to help with the invasion of Europe (America is focusing on the Pacific war and Japan is not yet knocking on Russia’s back door).  With 5 inf, 1 tank and 2 fighters in the army, Japan is going to have to send a dedicated force if he wants to take me out before I reach Caucus.

@UKcommander:

I see your point. However, do the infantry still cost three and are you only allowed one infantry in a territory per turn? I guess the commonwealth’s just don’t interest me that much if that’s it, unless it’s India with an I.C., then I can see where you’re coming from :wink:.

Yes the infantry still cost three IPC’s, but I think this infantry should be in addition to any units mobilized by an industrial complex. Thus it means that you can mobilize one additional infantry unit than what the restriction says; one cannot mobilize more units than the income value of the territory.

This rule would definitely bring some favor to UK, as you said in combination with an IC in India, it would be awesome to capture for the Japanese player!
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