BOTB rule clarifications

:? Question about stacking Illustrated! Here’s a graphic at

http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=0mmnnmymynu&thumb=4

East (right) of Houffalize is a German force :evil: attacking the Americans in Houffalize. The Half-track represents Armored Infantry. The Tiger tank is SS Panzer. The Panzer IV is ordinary armor. This is turn 3. In the BOB, this would add up to 12 (4 Tanks X 2 = 8; 1 Infantry = 1; 1 Arty = 3).

Is this still the case in your House Rules or does this force add up to 17 (2 Tanks = 6; 2 SS Panzer = 6; 1 Armored Infantry = 2; 1 Arty = 3  8-) and clearly overstacked (after turn 1)?

I know there’s a bonus die roll but that shouldn’t count against stacking. Right?  :-P

@frimmel:

I could certainly go for another game in a similar vein to BOTB. A light game but with a decidedly traditional wargame take on the matter.

Something on the Eastern Front perhaps?

Eastern front would be great.  I hear the scuttlebutt about hope for a Stalingrad game, maybe that could be in the BOTB flair.

@frimmel:

I’ve had that experience as well especially with folks who mostly have played Classic. Telling them they’ll have more fun as the Axis is always met with a you’re-trying-to-put-one-over-on-me attitude. I chide them they’re going to lose no matter which side they pick and they seem to want Allies even more.

Actually had someone laugh at me when I said the Axis has a better chance to win in D-Day. No one ever wants the Axis in that one.  :roll:

LOL  …I think it’s the planes the Allies get, think you are guaranteed more advantage with them.

@LT04:

I would be interested in putting something like this together for a BOTB style game if any one would care to help.
LT

Sounds cool LT, haven’t gotten much into AAM as yet, so not sure if i’d be much help in game play plans though.

they did, only the tank in the south even survived, –in the north, a couple infantry, an ART and the tank.  Allies should have dumped more into Bastogne and surrounding area i guess. 
  And since nothing else survived, the tank was cut off from supplies and allies didn’t bring any more up to allow it to even move.

Well… that certainly explains why the allies have been having such a ridiculously easy time moving their troops from place to place…

@Krieghund:

Per the FAQ, when you win the air combat initiative, you choose who places air units first.

OK, thank’s for the FAQ. :wink:

You would have to land supplies at the beaches and move them to the front line units. Units would have to be able to move out of zones with other units. The whole “locked in combat” aspect of D-Day is not in keeping with most of the mechanics of BOTB.

You can but it has not been playtested with the map. The ideas have been playtested and they work very well in other games. I am working on changes on the air power thing because its not historical. Both sides had limited air power for each day of the campaign and i plan on spreading out the pain of allied 3/9 planes for the last 4 turns of the game , while i feel many games will progress with the statement " if the germans dont get far by turn 4 they should resign" I want to take the same number of air allocations but spread them out over all the turns ( except no allied air allocations on turn one).

So what im saying it go ahead and post but let me email a better version first  to you with these new changes. Ill have it by tomorrow.