• At the beginning of “Barbarosa” The Germans had 153 divisions at the Russian border.
    The total man power was about 3’050,000.
    Russian at the time was about 4’700.000 strong.

    Well that was Barbarosa where the Russians were totally unprepared (mainly because of Stalin). The Russians did have a large standing army, though it needed to be modernized.

    However, if your suggesting that Russia mobilized 30 million over the coarse of the war….well thats a different and I admit my mistake.

    No problem, though I think the total number was much greater than that. I think at one time the Russians mustered 10-12 million. Anybody care to do some research?

    Which, when compared to Russian mobilization, is not huge difference considering the quality of the Germany military.

    The Russians had a very quality military too after 1942.


  • 30 mil. agansit just germany or with th japs?


  • Quote from me “well thats a different and I admit my mistake.”

    That should read “thats different and I admit my mistake” :roll:


  • @Anonymous:

    Quote from me “well thats a different and I admit my mistake.”

    That should read “thats different and I admit my mistake” :roll:

    That’s my post…… :oops: dumb!


  • and you talk about quotes here because?….


  • 30 mil. agansit just germany or with th japs?

    No, i’m talking about Eastern Front Stats. Anybody willing to research it for me?


  • @GeZe:

    and you talk about quotes here because?….

    I’m just correcting and clearing up mistakes in my previous post……is that not clear enough for you?


  • @TG:

    30 mil. agansit just germany or with th japs?

    No, i’m talking about Eastern Front Stats. Anybody willing to research it for me?

    Its hard to find exact stats for Russian military strength during WW2.
    In a book I’ve have at home its states that the Germany had expected to fight 200 Russian divisions. In December 41 they had counted over 360 divisions with more still coming.
    The more I look into it TG, the more accurate your 30 million seems.
    Over the coarse of the war anyhow.


  • I wish I had never thrown out some WWII articles I use to have… :(


  • @Mr:

    @GeZe:

    and you talk about quotes here because?….

    I’m just correcting and clearing up mistakes in my previous post……is that not clear enough for you?

    oh, ok then


  • @GeZe:

    @Mr:

    @GeZe:

    and you talk about quotes here because?….

    I’m just correcting and clearing up mistakes in my previous post……is that not clear enough for you?

    oh, ok then

    Its all good…sorry if my post came off rough. :lol:


  • No, the rough part is that we’re lacking information!!! :)


  • well I don’t think there are any acurate figers for the soveits


  • It’s not that bad, it’s just that they don’t want to release that sort of information. But the Germans kept pretty good records.


  • no see that the soveits put there figures to high


  • Not really, the difference between offical German and Russian records is only +/- 10% :-?


  • 10% is a lot


  • It still is… but nearly not as much as some people point it to be. (ie, 300 fighters were shot down when only 25 were offically recorded). this happened a lot in the European Air War in the Western Front.


  • ya I guess it isnt a big difference as I had expected


  • Not in military recording keeping it is. :)

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