Rules sets.

Hi! I just figured that there already seem to be pretty good summaries of LHTR vs. the original Revised rulebook. LHTR seemed like the best comparison point since those transport rules seemed to revert largely back to the timing in Classic.

Hello, well i translate the manual of A&A PC 1998, from German to English. The new 3° edition rules are:

"…new features in the rules of the 3rd edition

Diving submarines: defending submarines can dive during the fight or withdraw from the fight. A submerged submarine remains in the same sea zone until it resurfaces after the fight.

Air units can withdraw from an amphibious attack: figthers and bombers can retreat from an amphibious attack if the things are shell-dead to the attacker.

Several AAA in one territory: you can now place several AAAs on a territory. However, only one of these AAA can fire during defence.

New sea units can be placed in disputed sea zones: they can now place their sea units in sea zones occupied by the friend. In this case, the fight takes place during the enemy’s strike, in case the enemy does not draw his unites before the fight from the zone.
Note: you still need to place your sea units in the immediate vicinity of one of your industrial complexes.

Western Canada no longer borders directly on the Atlantic Ocean: this prevents a player from moving units from the Atlantic directly to Western Canada…"

Now the plastic figures are finite and listed in the box (box that have a sheman tank, and not the futuristic panzer 3 we use and love); but the plastic chips number is diferenti in the boxes, some have 10 red others 7, i have 6, some have 50 blancas other 65, i have 72, soooo….

…rules that is historically accurate and even makes sense…

Ummm……there is no way that Stalin would have put his forces under the command of the US or UK, or vice versa. Remember, after the Germans surrendered a large portion of the US military wanted to keep going to Moscow. Wisely they decided not to.

As far as the factories go, they are one of the most unrealistic parts of the game. The UK builds a factory in Persia and starts cranking out armor, not to mention aircraft carriers and battleships? Not an easy task.

Not playing by these rules is essential, as SUD said. I remember using them back in the dark ages and I could beat the axis without using the US at all. Russia holds off Germany while the UK pounds Japan and then turns back west and Russia and the UK run over Germany.

I think it was allowed in 2nd Ed,
or better: there must be one edition where you could do that.

or has bb´s in the area, or is using 6 inf vs. 1 etc.

@you:

NO it doesnt!!! when a battleship gets an attack during an amphibous landing, the unit it destroys, if it succeds (and there is a 66% chance of that) the unit gets no retaliation at all!!! at least those are the rules that came with the board game, apparently everyone around here is accustomed to changing he rules. also, the battleship is not involved in battle so it cannot be destroyed. it shoots ground cover for the freighters and the amphibious landers.

well, you’re right in your last sentance.
and kind of right in your second-to-last sentance (although Hasbro/Avalon Hill does make some suggestions for “evening out the playing field”. As for your first 2 statements - they’re wrong, although i’m curious as to which version of the game you received this rule with.

But, I like AAP, too! It’s a tight race.
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Now, fix the poll! - Xi

@Wild2000:

Stacking AA guns can be an advantage to the Allies when it becomes necessary to juggle AA guns between Allied territories. Under second edition rules, the Allied turn order can cause industrial complexes to go without an AA gun which can mean big trouble, especially if the Axis has heavy bombers.

I have had this situation arise many times in the European theatre, specifically when German territory is falling or the US has rockets.

agreed. This can even apply to the Axis as well. It may be nice to be able to “hold” a gun, while moving one at the same time. I remember at least one game where i wished that i could have 2 aa guns (even tho’ only one could be fired).