Ron Paul

@Jermofoot:

For instance…who cares about the states.

I do. The states need to be stronger, the federal govt weaker, IMO. And I still like R. Paul (staying on topic  :-D) just not his isolationist views.

Haven’t heard about his connections to skin-heads? Don’t all politicos have skeletons in their closets?

I’m not a big isolationist myself.

Any candidate we have should be willing to use the full might of the United States Military to achieve the goals of the Allied States of America (also known as the United States of America.)

However, some isolationist ideas are not really isolationist.  For instance, if you want to put huge tarrifs on imported goods from China to protect workers in the USA, that’s not really isolationist.  You are still accepting trade, you are just charging more for foreign goods to keep their market share lower, not cutting off trade altogether.

Another example, shutting down the bases in Germany.  Do the Germans need us to protect them from the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics anymore?  No.  Why?  We won that war, the USSR does not exist.  Thus, Germany does not need tens of thousands of US Soldiers and billions of dollars from the US in its country.    They’re really not even pretending to be that good of an ally anymore, it would be better, cheaper and smarter to redeploy the base, the materials and the men to somewhere more efficient, say, Israel who  WOULD be our good ally and we could support each other and have a base close to the hot spots in the world.

Shutting down our bases in Korea and Vietnam is the same thing.  We have a big base in Japan, just redeploy there and cut costs.

Not really isolationist, more fiscally, logically and militarily more conservative.

But poor Mr. Paul only has like 2% of the vote.  Honestly, I wish he would drop out, but he won’t.  Romney could use the votes to put more nails in McCain’s coffin and secure the victory in February.

@Cmdr:

However, some isolationist ideas are not really isolationist.  For instance, if you want to put huge tarrifs on imported goods from China to protect workers in the USA, that’s not really isolationist.  You are still accepting trade, you are just charging more for foreign goods to keep their market share lower, not cutting off trade altogether.

and then they put tariffs on our goods and then we boycott their raisins and then they raise tariffs even higher etc……not good

@Cmdr:

Another example, shutting down the bases

Agreed, good idea.

sorry honey, Mitt is DONE

sorry honey, Mitt is DONE

Mitt… Mitt who??

OK, this thread has crossed the line on civil discourse.

This is the ONLY warning.

@Imperious:

sorry honey, Mitt is DONE

Mitt… Mitt who??

That’s how I feel about John.

Lord knows John won’t even get 10% of the vote in the General election.  It will be Dukakis all over, only this time, we’ll be the ones with no votes and they’ll be the ones with the landslide victory.

Well perhaps if McCain selects Arnold Schwarzenegger as VP it will be something different. You heard it first from me.

Arnold won’t work. he dosn’t meet the criteria to be President and as the first in line to be president if McCain dies there would be no point. we know the Dems will use that against McCain if he gets the nomination (expetally if it’s Clinton inc or rather as i heard on the radio yesterday a caller called her the Shrilldabeast). Arnold would be a suicide bomb in the McCain run if as VP.
i would also like to point out that CA under the guidence of Arnold came vary close to getting socialized medicen this last week. it was ironicly shot down by the stat DEMs but not because they didn’t want it, but because of money. Arnold was pushing for it.
my point on that is that you can tell a lot about some in polatics by the political company they keep. or expetally hire.
McCain has as his National director of Hispanic outreach a man called Juan Hernandez. the guy is a pro open boarder guy and hear McCain is hiring him to work for him. the place i heard about it was hear on Glenn Beck. the interview has a few quotes, on from McCain and the other from Hernandez.

Exactly the thought I had, Perv.  Arnold is not a naturally born American and thus cannot be President, unless, like in Demolition Man, we amend the Constitution to let him.

I wouldn’t be surprised if McCain doesn’t ask Obama to be his Vice President.  They have a lot of common ground between them and it would secure to black caucus and may even destroy Hillary’s bid for the White House.  This, of course, assumes that Obama loses on Super Tuesday.

Arnold won’t work. he doesn’t meet the criteria to be President and as the first in line to be president if McCain dies there would be no point.

This is not true exactly…. Arnold can still be VP and if the president dies the job passes to the sec of state which will be Rudy G. Thank you very much!

Arnold turned around California and got alot of change done with the freeking state is full of wackos and old hippies who hate his philosophy. But the people love him and the Latins will vote for him over anybody else because they view him as macho and thats important for Latinos for some reason.

I already checked… Arnold is good to go.

Dunno if Arnold would fly, even if he cannot succeed to President, people will still view him as the de facto President in Waiting.

I guess if McCain did something smart, reconciled with Romney, and asked him to VP so at least he could have one conservative on the ticket.

But, given McCain’s history of actions, it seems more likely he’ll team up with a Democrat.  He has on every piece of legislation he’s pushed for in the Senate, why would he do something different when running for President?

I see a McCain-Obama vs Hillary-Edwards or McCain-Lieberman vs Hillary-Bill (no rule saying that a former president cannot be VP you know)

I told you, Huckabee will be McCain’s VP.

Remember, you heard it from me first!  :-D

Well, it would explain why Huckabee has not quit yet.  With Huckabee still running, some votes will be drained from Romney.

However, imagine how strong the ticket would be if it was Romney-Huckabee?

Besides, I still doubt, very much, that McCain will team with a republican.  He has no history of working with republicans.

@Cmdr:

However, imagine how strong the ticket would be if it was Romney-Huckabee?

A couple of points stronger than Romney on his own at most.  Their core support is the Religious Right, no gain by putting two of those together since they automatically both have the same core support.

I’d say the “religious” right isn’t the “core” of anyone.

Fiscal Conservatives are a Core
Judicial Conservatives are a Core
Economic Conservatives are a Core (different in that they want to see the economy grow, not government spending decrease)
Foreign Relation Conservatives are a Core (immigration, alliances, etc)
Domestic Security Conservatives are a Core (aka, war on terrorism, military spending, military development and research, etc)
Governmental Conservatives are a Core (as in they want smaller government with less power and states with more power)

Of those 6 pillars of Conservatism all have religious constituents as well as secular constituents.  However, I do not see religion as a core of the republican party.  Partially because that would imply that Christians want to impose a national religion and that is patently anti-conservative as it violates just about every one of the core constituencies.

The “religious Reich” are a bunch of religious people who want less restrictions on practicing their faith, less government influence and more state support.

Wow, why haven’t I found this yet? I like unread replies button too much!  :-D

Pro-Life
Pro-Guns
Pro-Military
Pro-Veterans
Pro-Civil Liberties
Pro-Border Control
Pro-Sound Currency
Anti-Welfare State
Anti-Tax Increases

But I don’t have much to say, cause in the end, I find everyone can at least agree with 75% of what Paul says, and just won’t vote for him cause they think he will lose…

And I’m still trying to find out how someone can think he is a Nazi…

GG

You could have posted a shorter post by just saying…
He is a Libertarian…

:-D

Well, most Republicans believe in all that, or just about everyone I knew/know… Like he says in the Debates, he is the truest “Republican” just not the most popular one.

Plus, some libertarians (like yourself if I’m correct) are Pro-Abortion…

GG

No, I am not “pro-abortion”

I am “pro keeping government the hell out of determining what people do to their own bodies”

i never said he was a nazi.  i was just saying that he didnt return contributions to white supremacy groups.  and that his writings, or not his writings, depending on what you think of the deal, were not to flowery for minorities.

its just what i know.

but it doesnt matter, b/c the democrats have the GrandDragon of the KKK(Bryd).  or actually it does, b/c democrats can be racists all day long and nobody cares(bill clinton).  republicans dont allow it.