Presidential Election (as a current event- watch the tone or it's gone)

@Cmdr:

It’s much better to make life so hard on illegals they decide to leave on their own.  It’s what the Mexican Government’s been doing and why we have this problem in the first place.  If we just arrest our own guys for committing felonies, and seize their assets to sell at auction, we get others not to commit those felonies and we can use the profits from the arrests to fund the government,

Yes, it’s good that we have such honest government officials that can be trusted with the power to arrest people, seize their assets, and sell said assets off at auction.

If you believe in honest government officials too, send me money and a picture of your daughter to:

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Arealnotmadeupcity
Nigeria

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no, im sure it’s on lease. i know Castro makes a big deal that he don’t cash the cheaks.

any one see the debate last night?

how about New York times artical that just came out saying in the Editers notes (or something like that) that all the Republicans are horible but McCain was the best there is.
hear is the artical. i don’t know, the Times is about as left as they come as papers go and they endorce the guy. i think that says a lot.

@ncscswitch:

Actually, we just kept it back in Teddy Roosevelt’s time, and when Castro took over in Cuba, we fortified the snot out of it :-)

Exactly.  But we did write it into a treaty.  Guantanamo Bay is akin to Midway and Guam.  US Soil, but not a US State.

@newpaintbrush:

@Cmdr:

It’s much better to make life so hard on illegals they decide to leave on their own.  It’s what the Mexican Government’s been doing and why we have this problem in the first place.  If we just arrest our own guys for committing felonies, and seize their assets to sell at auction, we get others not to commit those felonies and we can use the profits from the arrests to fund the government,

Yes, it’s good that we have such honest government officials that can be trusted with the power to arrest people, seize their assets, and sell said assets off at auction.

If you believe in honest government officials too, send me money and a picture of your daughter to:

Iamanhonestgovernmentofficial
Arealnotmadeupcity
Nigeria

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Yes, but they already HAVE that power.  I just want to focus it on companies committing felonies by hiring illegals.  Common, yer a liberal, you can get behind this!  We’re going to punish “the evil corporate empires!”  Big business is the enemy, right?  Well, let’s go get them!  :evil:

@Cmdr:

@newpaintbrush:

@Cmdr:

It’s much better to make life so hard on illegals they decide to leave on their own.  It’s what the Mexican Government’s been doing and why we have this problem in the first place.  If we just arrest our own guys for committing felonies, and seize their assets to sell at auction, we get others not to commit those felonies and we can use the profits from the arrests to fund the government,

Yes, it’s good that we have such honest government officials that can be trusted with the power to arrest people, seize their assets, and sell said assets off at auction.

If you believe in honest government officials too, send me money and a picture of your daughter to:

Iamanhonestgovernmentofficial
Arealnotmadeupcity
Nigeria

:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

Yes, but they already HAVE that power.  I just want to focus it on companies committing felonies by hiring illegals.  Common, yer a liberal, you can get behind this!  We’re going to punish “the evil corporate empires!”  Big business is the enemy, right?  Well, let’s go get them!   :evil:

I’m with you on that. Burn em.
As well as the outsourcing folks too.

so then we have no jobs.  great.

We have lots of jobs, Balung.  We are only going after the evil companies that hire illegals or outsource their labor to foreign nations. =)

In fact, shouldn’t we have MORE jobs?

Back to the candidates folks…

Kucinich dropped out today.

Anyone remember that he was running?

@Cmdr:

Kucinich dropped out today.

Anyone remember that he was running?

I thought he was a hold over still running from 2004…  :evil:

Yeah the stakes are pretty interesting on both sides…

5 Republicans, 4 Democrats, 7 Considered Front Runners, one “maverick” loaded with cash (Paul), and only one candidate that is without a doubt unable to win (Gravel).

And look, the Guerrilla is at 3000 posts…  :|

GG

Three Republicans, Three Democrats AFAIK are running:

Mitt Romney
John McCain
Mike Huckabee

Barrack Obama
Hillary Clinton
John Edwards

Though, the third one in each list is running for Vice President, I think.

@Cmdr:

Kucinich dropped out today.

Anyone remember that he was running?

I hadn’t heard that yet.  He was a pipe dream, anyway…to fringe.  But I will never forget his wife.  8-)

so, obama with the beatdown.

@balungaloaf:

so, obama with the beatdown.

obama is now sligtly ahead after dominating south carolina. he might became to use taht to give himself a slight advantage for super tuesday. it really is anyone’s race for either primary. (assuming Rudy doesn’t lose in florida) anyone ever told him not to put all your eggs in one basket. I still hate all the nominees though.

South Carolina is already being “spun” to downgrade Obama’s large victory, and is being spun effectively I might add.  Only 25% of the “white vote” but 80% of the “black vote” is being portrayed as Obama being “The Black Candidate” in the same way that Jackson was 20 years ago.  Back then Jackson was considered an “also ran” candidate, with polling somewhere between where Kusinich was when he dropped out and Edwards; but he won South Carolina TWICE on “the black vote”.  South Carolina keeps Obama in the race, but only until Super Tuesday unless by then he can broaden his appeal and he gets victories or at least strong showings in places with smaller minority populations and/or among hispanics.

Edwards is now out of it, but will hang on at least until Super Tuesday in order to keep gaining delegates, and may even officially remain in the race but with suspended campaigning (as he has done before) in an effort to have as much leverage as possible in the event the Democratic Nomination comes down to a brokered convention.  If that happens… if Hillary fails to lock up the nomination with 50%+1 of the delegates, expect Edwards to put his delegates behind Hillary in exchange for either the VP slot, or a Cabinet position.

As for the Republicans…
Unless Guilianni or Huckabee pull off a miracle in Florida (Guiliani a win, Huckabee at least a strong second place), then the Republican race will come down to McCain versus Romney on Super Tuesday.  A clear winner on Super Tuesday will effectively put an end to the Republican challenge.  And if that clear winner would be McCain, Romney’s campaign then becomes the equivalent of Pat Robertson’s campaign… simply an effort to keep the Right Wing issues front and center in an effort to pull the front running a bit more to the Right.

Yea, but to be honest, S. Carolina was being spun by the Clintons as a racist state for Obama long before the vote.  They had written it off before even campaigning there.

It is interesting that the Rich White guys are tearing down the Black Man while attempting to claim they are the party to fight the (allegedly) racist republicans.

McCain and Romney would be very smart to bring that fact up over, and over, and over again if Hillary is their opponent.

As for Guilliani and Huckabee, they’re dead in the water.  I don’t even think Florida can save them, they’ve been loosing too much and too often now to change their image to winners.

i think that Florida can keep Huck in, but Rudy i don’t know about that. not that it matters he is polling so low down there that i doupt it’s worth even considering he may pull up high.

i think Clinton inc made a few moves to throw the “black vote” in SC. Bill is a powerfull figure and can do a lot with out hurting Mrs Bill’s image. for example when he took a nap on MLKjr day at the speech right behind MLKIII it never came back on Mrs Bill but just on him (understanadably), but i really doupt he was so tiered that he needed a nap (or if he was he planed to do it) but rather it was a show to make the black population dislike him more and side away from his puppet i mean wife so when people went to vote the blacks pulled away from Mrs Bill and went Obama. now you can say i’m just trying to spin it bad for them, but this guy has been to some other big events and knows that it’s pritty darn borring to sit back behind some one, so i’m sure he knows some good tricks to stay atleast looking awake, aleart, and interested. bing where he was sitting you would think a person of his intelagence would know he would be seen and pull out all the stops to stay awake. but yet he looked like a kid in school trying to stay awake durring a long and borring lecture.

No, I think they knew ahead of time that they were losing in S. Carolina and so pre-planned the spin and didn’t waste resources there.  I don’t think it’s any action they did or did not take, it’s just that Obama plays better in S. Carolina then Clinton.  Understandably so, considering it’s the Clintons keeping the Black Man from achieving equality by tearing him down (as perceived by the black population.)  Hillary’s comments that MLK was a worthless rabble rouser and LBJ did all the real work didn’t help either.

S. Carolina is hardly indicative of the rest of the nation though.  They have a lot of ingrained prejudices and have to be viewed in that light.  They are prejudiced against Mormons and White Girls tearing down Black men, to point out two of them.

As for Rudy, I think even if he manages to win Florida, and I don’t think he will, he’s still out.  It’s between the Liberal and the Conservative for the Republican nomination.  I’m hoping the conservative wins because if the liberal wins, I’m voting Hillary or Barrack this year.

Actually, it’s kinda funny, because there’s a whole movement in Illinois to go and vote Barrack en masse to keep Hillary from running in the general election.  So I’ll be in GOOD practice if McCain is the nomination, I’ll have already voted for the democrat!