Google censors? i knew they did for china, but in america?

@Curtmungus your honor of being more famous than me is quite deserved. I salute you.

And a belated one to my Canadian friends as well :)

@Colt45:

The search engine I use is ixquick.com, now named Start Page. It dubs itself the world�s most private search engine, for what it’s worth, although I think at least it’s images are powered by Google which makes me lose some faith in it.

I don’t use Facebook. I prefer Gab.ai which lacks in workability but makes up for by almost never censoring legal content.

Thanks, Colt.  I will definitely give ixquick.com a look.

Just for the record, Srarboy, when I said “replace” I didn’t mean in an existential sense. I just meant are there replacements that a lone, citizen like myself can turn to? Competition, in other words. I realize no one is going to put Facebook or Google out of business, and I don’t really want to (well, maybe just a little  :-D). Sorry if my initial post caused confusion.

@Jermofoot:

How would a guy under a pile of cops hurt anyone? He wasn’t even on PCP.

I think CC covered this, should they sit on him for 10 minutes? 20? 2 hours?

@Jermofoot:

Actually, there has been much debate about not only the lethality of a taser, but also the excessive employment of them.  People have died from being tased, there are records showing that cops are more likely to use the taser since it is considered nonlethal.

I don’t know how the laws are inother places, but in AZ you can’t use “less than lethal” on someone unless it has been used on you.  In other words the cops here have all been tazed and pepper sprayed.  They know exactly what it does and how it works.

@Jermofoot:

Unfortunately, we can’t just silence what we don’t want to hear.  A discussion must include even the fringe arguments that are unlikely.

Yeah we can.  You may have freedom of speech, but I also have the freedom to tell you to be quiet if I don’t want to hear it in my house.  I can hold my hands over my ears, mI can turn off the TV/Radio.  And if you’re on my property I can tell you to shut up or leave.

@Jermofoot:

What could possibly be more to the story?  You can see everything from start to finish on the video.

Of course there’s more to the story, unless you were there, you don’t know what was happening outside of the camera view.

Imperial Leader is calling other people “arrogant” . . . that’s pretty funny.
Are you saying this as an AMERICAN?  Or as another citizen of the world?  (please say American, please say American)

I am saying this as a  US’an a term i learned from a good friend. From now on thats what im calling all European- Americans. You are blinded by the light… such arrogance is a trait of those nations and people still thinking they run things but have lost their clout a long time ago. No im not talking about you!

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I dont know where in the US they are from, but I see them all the time.

@BigBlocky:

I’m a great fan of the UN but…… It has lately been a disaster… Germany in my opinion has taken herself entirely out of the equation, it is her choice. …Anybody who says “No matter what happens, I won’t do a thing” loses their right to consultation.

True, i am not happy with that too firm position as well. But to be honest: In my memory the US started similar in the opposite position, not really accepting any “evidence” against their point.

If the UN is hell bent on being useless as it was in Bosnia at Srebrencia … useless as it was in Rwanda …

The UN is not the world government. It can only be as strong as it members want it to be, especially as the strongest member wants it to be.
It’s not the worlds policeman, and it doesn’t have an own army to command. You can say it is weak, and i wouldn’t object. But: do you want it stronger or shattered?

No, I’m sorry. The US has shown enough evidence. Even if there were no weapons of mass destruction there is no argument that I have heard that convinces me it’s better to let this mass murderer stay in control and hold hostage a country of 22 million.

You are right in the second part of that caption, but i would not say at all that the US has shown enough evidence. It is more that the US defies what ever Hans Blix is saying: For the US, the Iraq is in a lose-lose situation. Whatever he does, the US won’t be satisfied and claim it’s further proof.

If you don’t want to left a finger to help these people then fine. But get the hell out of my way because I am coming through……

If your government had argued like that in the start, the situation would be totally different. To change the position now would lokk extremely silly and would hint that there is some hidden interest by the US that they don’t want to say alound.
For you coming through and me getting out of your way: If you always prefer action without thinking, then it might be better for you if i trip you while you pass me. Then we can sit together and make up a strategy that has more chances of success.
Assume you are right, and Saddam has WMD. Hoe many of his people do you think will survive being freed?

I ment expept for english