It doesn’t matter if the land unit survives to retreat or not. Just its having moved into the territory establishes the retreat path.
Siberian Units
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I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree. In my view, the conversation was about good Russian strategy. It may be that your POST was about the odds of taking West Russia or Ukraine on the assumption that nothing else mattered and Germany would commit all its airpower.
So in the context of a general discussion about strategy, the fact that Germany has other pressing needs for its air power is very relevant.
Who cares what Germany can accomplish if it is willing to shoot itself in the foot? You may as well have a discussion about how many turns it would take Japan to build and defend an IC on Hawaii. Japan COULD do it if it committed all it’s resources, but it’s a pointless discussion since no sensible Japan player would ever go for that.
Again, your confusing the point of your post with the subject of the entire conversation. I gave you shit for something that wasn’t part of your post, yes, but not for something that wasn’t part of the “discussion.”
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Again, your confusing the point of your post with the subject of the entire conversation. I gave you sh*t for something that wasn’t part of your post, yes, but not for something that wasn’t part of the “discussion.”
I guess when you quoted my post, I thought your reply was specifically targetted towards the quoted comment.
But then again, I could be mistaken.
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Again, your confusing the point of your post with the subject of the entire conversation. I gave you sh*t for something that wasn’t part of your post, yes, but not for something that wasn’t part of the “discussion.”
I guess when you quoted my post, I thought your reply was specifically targetted towards the quoted comment.
But then again, I could be mistaken.
When I quoted your post, I assumed your post was part of the general discussion on R1 strategy.
However, your post could still apply I guess, if the assumption is modified equally for each attack - does Germany have better odds if you change the assumption to it only attacking with 1 or 2 air units instead of 6 or 7?
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My thought on Ukraine/West Russia, as opposed to Belorussia/West Russia:
Belorussia/West Russia:
Extremely safe play for the Russians with very favorable odds in all battles. There is a extremely small chance that one or both battles go very badly for the Russians, leaving the Germans in a good countering position.
Ukraine/West Russia:
Aggressive play with the Russians. Attacking with two tanks is very risky. Attacking with three tanks is very costly. Whether two tanks or three tanks are used, though, a few bad rolls by the Russians followed by a German counter means a chance for the Axis to take control.
I’m only radical when it comes to writing posts :-D
Russian side analysis, I agree.
German side analisys slightly to correct:Belorussia/West Russia:
Germans is in a relatively better position (related to the other options) because Ukrainian army is still alive, may attack UK in Mediterranean using up to 6 fighter. German si happy still having all her tank and six fighters.
Ukraine/West Russia:
German is in a relatively worst position, have to counter Ukraine invasion, maybe committing a fighter, may attack UK in Meditarranean using up to 4 fighter, maybe 5.
German is slightly grumbling, missing the sixth fighter anf the panzer.Now my question is: being German what scenario do you like more?
(I am speaking of which one gives to you the more confortable opening.)Belorussia/West Russia I suppose, at least I like it more than the other. This is why I do Ukr/WR when I am Russia.
Returning on topics: I leave Siberian units on Japanese front, infantry is made for holding ground, it is less equipped for switching fronts.
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I assumed your post was part of the general discussion on R1 strategy.
You know what they say that happens when you a$$_u_me…. !
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I’m definitely more uncomfortable when Russia does W. Russia/Ukraine (when I’m Germany), especially when they come out with 3 tanks + 1 aa in Ukraine (very common). Sometimes I just have to avoid counterattacking Ukraine on G1 or get burned out.
But then again, Japan would be in a more comfortable situation without those T-34’s ready to counterattack Sinkiang.
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I’m definitely more uncomfortable when Russia does W. Russia/Ukraine (when I’m Germany), especially when they come out with 3 tanks + 1 aa in Ukraine (very common). Sometimes I just have to avoid counterattacking Ukraine on G1 or get burned out.
But then again, Japan would be in a more comfortable situation without those T-34’s ready to counterattack Sinkiang.
And the we come back on topic: I stack Novo with siberian inf, aiming at delay Japanes build up, with 6-8 inf there and two fig. it is possible to counter at least one Japanese pincer: Yakut or Sinkiang. After, that I hope that US/UK have landed somewhere in Europe and are doing something of useful against Germany.
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I played another game with USSR/USA. This time, british player not buyed India IC, so i didn’t buy Sinkiang IC. I send siberian units to Novo, and they still contain japaneses. I have a big soviet stack of inf/tanks in Ucranie facing a similar german stack in Belorussia. German mediterranean fleet is destroyed, and western allies landed in France with 14 units! So i think this time Germany will be crushed. Siberian units buyed time stopping japaneses so Caucasus/Rusia IC units could go all against germans.
I think siberian units are better defending central path in Novo or Sinkiang than doing nothing in Yakut or travelling to Ucraine and losing a lot of time to arrive.
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I think Funcioneta and Romulus are my two favourite new members. And Lucifer too.
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Thanks Frood.
What I may say regarding you is that you have given me more interesting idea that I am beneficially applying in my game!
Your posts contains thoroughly evaluation and clever ideas!Karma +1 for you!
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Thanks Frood.
What I may say regarding you is that you have given me more interesting idea that I am beneficially applying in my game!
Your posts contains thoroughly evaluation and clever ideas!Karma +1 for you!
Aw shucks!!! :oops:
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He, he. Thanks, Frood :lol: Would you like a e-mail game? :-D
Hi, pals. What is that “karma” stuff?
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Karma +1 for you for not knowing what is karma!
You have been applauded right now!
Look at your karma!
:-)
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Positive karma is the number of time that you has been “applauded” for your post by other memebers of the forum, which appreciated them.
Negative karma is the number of time that you has been “smoten” for your post by other memebers of the forum, which disliked them.
Clear now?
:-)
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He, he. Thanks, Frood :lol: Would you like a e-mail game? :-D
Hi, pals. What is that “karma” stuff?
Sure, if you are willing to use TripleA.
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Positive karma is the number of time that you has been “applauded” for your post by other memebers of the forum, which appreciated them.
Negative karma is the number of time that you has been “smoten” for your post by other memebers of the forum, which disliked them.
Clear now?
:-)
Clear, but if I want karma you. What have to do? Only say karma+1 or is there any button somewhere for… wel, karming? :lol:
Karma +1 to you :-D
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He, he. Thanks, Frood :lol: Would you like a e-mail game? :-D
Hi, pals. What is that “karma” stuff?
Sure, if you are willing to use TripleA.
OK, but could you explain me TripleA? I only have ABattle Map and not played by e-mail yet (only face to face). I think needs Java … should i install this Java stuff or goes with Windows?
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Clear, but if I want karma you. What have to do? Only say karma+1 or is there any button somewhere for… wel, karming? :lol:
You need 100 posts before you can karma-ize with the rest of us posting fools
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Clear, but if I want karma you. What have to do? Only say karma+1 or is there any button somewhere for… wel, karming? :lol:
Karma +1 to you :-D
I karma-ed Romulus for you.
Or did I?
Dun dun dun.
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He, he. Thanks, Frood :lol: Would you like a e-mail game? :-D
Hi, pals. What is that “karma” stuff?
Sure, if you are willing to use TripleA.
OK, but could you explain me TripleA? I only have ABattle Map and not played by e-mail yet (only face to face). I think needs Java … should i install this Java stuff or goes with Windows?
Yeah, you have to install Java 5.0 (1.5?) or later - just get the latest version. Then, if you want to play on these forums, you’ll have to download the patched version of TripleA from my site - http://frood.net/aacalc/maps/
If however you want to keep it a little simpler, you could just download the latest version of Triplea from http://triplea.sourceforge.net/ and we can just e-mail the save file back and forth. For an e-mail game, triplea will roll dice using an e-mail server that e-mails the results to both of us for verification.
PM me when you have TripleA up and running.