German Naval Build Round 1

@Jennifer:

The only thing an AC in SZ 5 does is force England and America to focus on Africa for two turns before sailing north with a large fleet to invade Norway/SZ 5 en-mass.

I’ve never seen it do much but end up getting a lot of Germans wet as the carrier sinks quickly to the bottom of the Baltic Sea/ Nord Sea

1 like the 2 trns better because it can move troops and not tie down 2 figs.

Germany has a choice when it comes to Navy…

Go heavy, or surrender the seas…

@ncscswitch:

Germany has a choice when it comes to Navy…

Go heavy, or surrender the seas…

The only time I can see otherwise is if Germany gets a bid of 8 and adds a tpt in the baltic
then buying a tpt on G1 is worth while.

If I get 8 IPC as Germany, the TRN will be in SZ14, or perhaps a SUB in SZ8…

If I get 8 IPC as Germany, the TRN will be in SZ14, or perhaps a SUB in SZ8…

I remember trying that lol. It was really funny to see Germany sailing into the heart of Africa along the west coast, and also Germany sinking the UK bb/tran + Russian sub in the other case lmao. It wasn’t terribly advantageous in the long run though in my experience, but I didn’t try it often enough to feel conclusive about it.

@ncscswitch:

If I get 8 IPC as Germany, the TRN will be in SZ14, or perhaps a SUB in SZ8…

I will not take axis for less than 8 ipc, the tripleA ladder rules says 9.
With 9 ipc it’s about 50-50 win/loss.
I guess most ppl play with axis bid down, I estimate axis bid below 6 means axis must be better player(s),
if then axis players manage to win games with any bid substantially below the 8-9 range.

Thanks Lucifer.  I must be a pretty good player then… I win 2 out of 3 games, and almost every game has been a bid of 8 or less (one as low as 4) :-D

@ncscswitch:

If I get 8 IPC as Germany, the TRN will be in SZ14, or perhaps a SUB in SZ8…

I used to think that too, until someone put the tpt in sz5 on me and I hated what it made me do for Russia round 1.

With 2 sz5 tpts, UK can be lost on G1.  I am not too happy giving Germany a 42% chance of taking out London.

Russia must take out Norway to kill a ftr and/or put 1 ftr in London.

There are other, BETTER, ways to prevent a G2 Sea Lion than either Norway or a Russian FIG to London; even against a MASSIVE number of German TRNs in SZ5.

Someone tried the sealion against me a few weeks ago, with 5 trans G1.
It’s not difficult to counter if you have calculated this scenario before.
Sealion didn’t happen this time, I lost because of other reasons, but this made me think
about possibillities that I didn’t know existed before that game.
I made several errors which helped me lose the game because I had not thought about what do if……?
I guess now I would be happy (as allies) if G bought 5 trans, 5 trans G1 will help Russia more than Germany.

5 TRN G1 are 10 INF and 2 TANK less for Germany
Sealion with 5 TRN is 10 Less infantry for Germany.
20 if LESS and 2 TANK Less on G2 is German ready to be assailed by Russia (alone!)

Then 5 TRN in G1 means Germany being assailed by Russia…. mmmm I dislike 5 TRN in G1! :-D

@ncscswitch:

There are other, BETTER, ways to prevent a G2 Sea Lion than either Norway or a Russian FIG to London; even against a MASSIVE number of German TRNs in SZ5.

who said G2?

I said Germanys FIRST turn

I dislike setting up my board to have the game determined by a dice roll on G1 that has a 38% chance of clearing London

@ncscswitch:

I dislike setting up my board to have the game determined by a dice roll on G1 that has a 38% chance of clearing London

OK

What are you talking about?
Please put into context.

@ncscswitch:

I dislike setting up my board to have the game determined by a dice roll on G1 that has a 38% chance of clearing London

It’s 16% for sealion victory with lowluck.
32% with reg dice.

If the AA gun doesn’t get any hits, it’s 32% with lowluck, and 45%-46% with reg dice….    :mrgreen:
How bout some short games???  :-D :lol: 8-)

And if you lose the gamble, you end up with Germany pretty much toast.