More Details on Axis & Allies Guadalcanal

@DonDebelak said in Axis and Allies Guadalcanal a flawed game.:

Re: Combat in GuadalcanIal?

I find Axis and Allies Guadalcanal a very flawed game. In a battle where planes attach ships, in the air combat the phase, which you have to do even though no planes for the enemy are present, the planes can’t kill a ship, - not on the battle box -but the ships can kill the plane. So ships get two chances to kill the planes and planes only get one chance to kill. That is unfair.

This is incorrect. First the sea units fire at the air units, and then the air units fire at the sea units. The sea units do not get 2 chances to hit the air units.

In a land battle where only planes are attacking, there could be ships on the zone next to the island, but they can’t kill anybody because the battle box only has land units listed.

True, sea units cannot hit air units attacking on land.

Ant the planes can kill land units without land units being able to fight back.

This is not entirely true. While antiaircraft guns are the only land units that can fire at air units, they do so before the air units can attack. This makes it unwise to leave your land units within range of enemy air attack without the protection of antiaircraft guns and/or air units.

I’m not playing this game again.

That is, of course, your choice to make, but you probably owe it to yourself to read the rules again and correct your errors in execution before writing this game off.

I hope this helps.

You should add sea planes to the game without using figs and tacs. But then as the war went on the normal planes can find the ships. For tac bombers if sea planes and or ( fig, tacs ) find ships and or subs, they get a first strike shot for first round only. Attacker picks the target.
So tacs FS hit surface subs @3 and ships @3. If the tac misses the sub, then it can dive now. If tac misses and sub dives then any destroyer in same sea zone gets a depth charge drop @2. On 2nd round or later all tacs attack and defend @2 since they dropped there payload.

I’ve been using this tac, sub and DD thing for years.

I watched a part of a Guadacanal History Channel presentation last night and it really makes you want to go right out there and buy the game.

It is only a matter of time now!

I think me and my friend technically played ‘to the death’.

I just bought Guadalcanal about a week ago (and bought AAP40 yesterday :-D), and played my first full game with my friend on Friday night. We played from about 7.30-2.00, it was pretty awesome.

Anyway, I played Japan and he the US, and from the first turn he took Guadalcanal, and from there proceeded to mass a sizable navy which gave me a lot of trouble, as well as a decent air force. It was hard going for me, though I had a strong presence on Bougainville and Choiseul. Most of my efforts went into maintaining my navy (which was massed in zones B and F), and AA guns (which I sent to Bougainville and Choiseul), to combat his navy and planes.

Towards the end there was a decisive battle, in which I almost overpowered his navy (this, I think, would have almost led me to victory then and there - he had almost no units behind about zone G), but alas, he rebounded and from there I was a goner.

In a fit of desperation I started making rules such as ‘last stand’ (where Japanese transports get 10 attack each - it was late at night), but he still defeated me with something like 3 battleships and a menagerie of other ships.

I made him attack my base directly, and he simply blew my 15 or so infantry units right out of there with his battleships, and that was that.

It was a lot of fun though, and my friend (who usually plays Xbox 360 all day) seemed to enjoy himself, and is keen to play AAP40.

The US has to take Santa Isabel, Malatia and evict the remaining Japanese from Guadalcanal on turn one. They have to get even on reinforcement points.

I think the Japanese are better off on turn 1 being in a position to contest New Georgia if necessary, they can get enough together to make it unattractive to the US, but moving the supplies back to build an additional airfield on the island they start with an airfield on. (Map is fuzzy in my head for some reason today.)

The game is short and both sides must move fast but at the same time remember they can’t win it on turn one. IMO.

Yes, I didn’t post about that part. I had that infantry and artillery move in the same turn, then Armor. But your way works as well. It does cut a step out.

Ah okay. So how much does an AC cost compared to an INF in reinforcement points?