We should not attack Iraq

F_alk, your information is mis-leading. Here are the actual facts. You fail to mention that those last 5 “juveniles” executed in Texas were not executed when they were under-age. Here are the facts:

Name: T.J. Jones
Executed: 8/8/02
State: Texas
Race: Black
Age Convicted: 17
Age Executed: 25
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Name: Napoleon Beazley
Executed: 5/28/02
State: Texas
Race: Black
Age Convicted: 17
Age Executed: 25

Name: Gerald Mitchell
Executed: 10/22/01
State: Texas
Race: Black
Age Convicted: 17
Age Executed: 33

Name: Shaka Sankofa (Gary Graham)
Executed: 6/22/00
State: Texas
Race: Black
Age Convicted: 17
Age Executed: 36

Name: Glen McGinnis
Executed: 1/25/00
State: Texas
Race: Black
Age Convicted: 17
Age Executed: 27

Can’t help but notice a common theme in those inmates.

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see the common theme running through those last five people. The more reasonable approach, however, would be to look at the crimes that they committed. I’m willing to bet that they’re not your casual shoplifter.

@Jazz:

The US will not be afraid to bomb civilian shields. It just won’t make the news.

LOL. That was a good one Yanny my man. To think that the Media wont cover civilian deaths is to think that the sky isnt blue. If an Iraq civilian gets a hangnail from U.S. bombing CNN will have 24 hour coverage for a week.

And to think that the U.S. Military holds no regard for civilian life is appauling. Did i spell appauling right?

In support of Yanny, one might check out this story filled by a Canadian reporter. I think that our news tends to be quite objective from most respects (especially the CBC) and is regarded quite highly, as are its journalists.
http://cbc.ca/news/viewpoint/correspondent_vernon/20020813.html

@Deviant:Scripter:

F_alk, your information is mis-leading. Here are the actual facts. You fail to mention that those last 5 “juveniles” executed in Texas were not executed when they were under-age. Here are the facts:

Name: T.J. Jones
Age Convicted: 17
–--------------------------
Name: Napoleon Beazley
Age Convicted: 17

Name: Gerald Mitchell
Age Convicted: 17

Name: Shaka Sankofa (Gary Graham)
Age Convicted: 17

Name: Glen McGinnis
Age Convicted: 17

My information is misleading?

No, you can’t read.

READ MY POST AGAIN !

@F_alk:

( a guy in texas was killed/ capital punished, for a murder that he did/ would have done when he was 17 ! That is against internatiopnal law!).

I never claimed that they were executed while underage, but executed for crimes they have committed when underage. That alone is against international laws.

LEARN TO READ !!!
Or ask CC to help you with your language, as he is eager to help us germans :) :)

Did anyone of you notice that the mexican president will not visit Texas in August because of the constant crimes Texas does?

@Jazz:

Yanny said:

The US could care less if the UN existed or not.

THANK YOU YANNY! I am tired of a bunch of 3rd world mobsters condeming American and Israeli actions as they try to take my 2nd amendment rights.

We should all be thankful that the U.N. has no real power. The day they get real power is the day the 3rd world dictators have mor power than us.

AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHEMMMMMMMM

when i said…… “US independace day… who cares?” i got massively attacked here…

and this stands uncommented?

The day the USA is gone I am going to dance a jig.

should be enough… even though it’s not totally true…

@F_alk:

LEARN TO READ !!!
Or ask CC to help you with your language, as he is eager to help us germans :) :)

ahem.
not true.
willing to help - true.
eager - false.

F_alk said:

and this stands uncommented?

Yup, looks like it. I would think there would be people on this board who agree with me.

F_alk said:
The day the USA is gone I am going to dance a jig.

Now i find that mean and disturbing. I dont have a problem with the nations of the world. Just the United Nations the organization. I dont wish the countries to no longer be.

I do suppose that is the difference between conservatism and socialism or liberalism. We actually care.

@Jazz:

Yanny said:

The US could care less if the UN existed or not.

THANK YOU YANNY! I am tired of a bunch of 3rd world mobsters condeming American and Israeli actions as they try to take my 2nd amendment rights.

We should all be thankful that the U.N. has no real power. The day they get real power is the day the 3rd world dictators have mor power than us.

I don’t think I’ll comment on this; I can’t change conservative’s minds, they are beyond my help. And we all know what that means: Yes! the world is doomed!

Well to be fair I dont think that i represent all the conservatives when i said what i did about the U.N. Although I like to think that there are those who would agree with me.

But Bossk, to say the world is doomed just because of one crazy guys opinion (i.e. me lol) is just plain cookie.

But i do enjoy talking on the forums. Good form all.

I don’t like the U.N. the U.N. hates my religion and my country. It conducts “emergency mettings” to discuss the situation in Israel. God forbid that it condut an emergency meeting to discuss the Chinese occupations of Sinkiang, Tibet and Manchuria. That would mean that it’s a fair body, and that can’t be rue.

Thats the style emu. Glad to know I am not alone.

Yes, funny how they claim that Israel’s occupation of the West Bank and Gaza are the longest in history, that’s 35 years when China has been occupying tibet for at least 50. Russia is currently occupying Chechnya, and the U.N. doesn’t seem to care. Nor do they seem to care about Morocco occupying Western Sahara. It’s Israel that matters because it’s the Jewish state.

@EmuGod:

Yes, funny how they claim that Israel’s occupation of the West Bank and Gaza are the longest in history, that’s 35 years when China has been occupying tibet for at least 50. Russia is currently occupying Chechnya, and the U.N. doesn’t seem to care. Nor do they seem to care about Morocco occupying Western Sahara. It’s Israel that matters because it’s the Jewish state.

I agree with you, but i take it another step further. Not only has the western world looked the other way on China and Russia, however it bombed Serbia for its acts within its borders. Although i am strongly against the regime Molosovich had established, the western world acts as school-yard bullies in dealing with countries like Iraq and Serbia. These are relatively small countries that may be pushed around when it is in the interests of the US and Canada and much of Europe (Serbia - stability, Iraq - oil concerns), and yet China and Russia who practice daily acts of terrorism on other what-should-be sovereign nations are catered too in order to curry trading “favor” while their own outrageous acts are ignored. And yes Emugod - i agree that the UN overstepped its mandate in the meeting you are referring too (was it in South Africa? i can not remember the precise connection).
that’s enough of a rant for me.
my point - we try a little too often in the west to impose our “morality” which is too often a thinly veiled, often hypocritical way of pushing our weight around in our own best interests.

I’m not even a Jew and I took offence to that. But enlighten us Yanny, what are the many reasons to dislike Israel?

I actually support the attack on Iraq because I feel he is capable of lots of trouble. In Israel they have started Small Pox vaccinations just in case. I think he has to be removed from power for the safety of the entire region and even the world.

I belive you are referring to the meeting in Durban, South Africa but that was only one “emergency meeting” of many. It isn’t just the UN, it’s embedded in Christian culture. After the Holocaust, the anti-semitic beliefs were removed from the Church but I believe that Anti-semitism is still subconsciously still in Christian culture due to the thousands of years of hate toward Jews.

@Yanny:

Israel, oh there are many reasons. Heres just a sampling.

1. The Israelis violate more UN resolutions than even the Us.
2. The Israelis have been occupying parts of 4 countries over 30 years.
3. The Israelis waste more of my tax dollars than any other country.
4. If Israel wouldn’t be there, the Twin Towers would.
5. Israel practically has our Goverment under it’s control. I suspect Blackmail.
6. Israel is ultra-conservative. I hate conservatives.
7. Israel is a Theocracy.
8. Israel killed a great friend of mine.

This is clearly an upsetting topic for you given point number “8” and i can understand someone hating (for a while) in this circumstance.
as for parts 1-7 there are too many reasons why this is bizaare and ridiculous.

1. If it’s true, then Big Deal. They are worse than the US (and still “better” than many other countries). The US has violated more UN resolutions than even Canada has - is that a good reason to hate them?
2. I"m sure the US has occupied more countries than that for a lot longer. As well Britain, France, etc. Also where is the line drawn between “occupy” and “habitate”?
3. Big deal. One country has to “waste” (depending on your definition of waste) more tax dollars than any other - why not a very young, fledgling nation that has had all of its surrounding neighbours threaten, attack, and terroize it over and over again in its short history?
4. If Afghanistan, or almost any other country did not exist then the twin towers might still exist. Even Canada might be blamed in some way by some person.
5. How ridiculous. I guess Kissinger had pix of Nixon sodomizing a young boy too. Israel has no more control over the US than China, Russia, Canada, or any number of other countries
6. A large part of the US is ultra-conservative. You must deal with this whole “hate” thing.
7. Big deal. George Bush is the president of America - no government system is perfect. Also people who tend to rule Israel tend to be elected and tend to be very good (minimally appropriately) at thier jobs - not simply religious figures.
8. I’m very sorry about the loss of your friend. Death under nearly any circumstance, especially at the hands of an organization/government , is certainly tragic