• @ncscswitch:

    The problem with MyLord’s analysis is that he is only evaluating value over a full turn… declaring that the WR trade is an even IPC trade after R2 even with the loss of a German FIG.

    The simple fact is that the value of that FIG is NOT measured in a single battle, but should be measured in terms of the number of hits it will inflict over 10-15 turns of game play.

    The loss of air power early is a HUGE shift economically that is cumulative over the course of the game, and cannot be dismissed by a simple 1 turn analysis.

    If Germany sends its air east against Russia on R1, it’s a pretty sure bet that the Axis player DOES NOT THINK THE GAME WILL LAST 10-15 turns.

    (Note - with a G1 heavy air attack on Russian territories, Germany is probably gunning for Caucasus or Moscow early, with or without Japan’s help.  Strong Axis play following an opening in the Russian defense means the Allies need to play far more passively (i.e. building fighters to reach Moscow), which allows Germany/Japan to make later game plays for Africa, and in a KGF to switch Germany’s focus from Ukraine/Caucasus to Eastern Europe/Karelia, while Japan takes over the offensive in Asia, with Germany and/or Japan covering the slack in Africa.  In any event, the German player isn’t IGNORING the value of a German fighter, the German player is PAYING for what the German player gets.  The price is German air blood, but it could well be worth it.)


  • Fighters lasting 10-15 turns… why do you guys let your ennemies swap unhindered with their fighters???

    I’m I the only one to use AA guns on the front line and swap with artillery?

    If i know my opponent is an air force fan, I won’t hesitate to buy an additional AA on the first round at caucasus and move the one fom moscow to West Russia to be in position to cover the entire front line on R2. I’ll have my artillery ready to swap where needed.

    There is just no way i’m letting germany trade the front line with their whole aviation without risk. You need to bleed them even if it’s mean trading artillery for artillery. AA guns cannot be destructed, you will recapture them a t worst but at least you don’t need to compete with 2 red fighters vs 6-7 planes. I’d rather use my planes on the Japanese front.


  • What’s your thoughts on the U.S.S.R taking out german units in Norway/ Finland? Do you consider this a russian goal or the U.K?

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    I’m not a big fan of this on R1.  Now I certainly don’t have a problem if it is an option for Russia in round 2 or 3 (where Ger counter of Kar failed).

    I think it is an unnecessary risk on R1 that draws troops away from the Belo/Ukr/Wrus/Cauc area, but again after round 1 and esp after the Ger tran is sunk and it is safe to use a tank or two, then sure take it out with Russia assuming UK doesn’t need the income or want the spot for an IC.

    I’ll usually take it with the first available troops once the Ger trn is sunk which could be as early as UK 2 (or US 2 if I plan a US IC).  But I typically go to Afr in rds 1 and 2 so I think I usually take Nor with the UK in round 3.

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