I like that idea but at the same time I don’t. (If that makes any sense.) I like the idea of having a predetermined army b/c you can see before you start what you’re going to combat and through this can set up strategies for what you would do next time, like we do with other A&A games. I don’t like it because it takes away from the player’s freedom to choose what units s/he likes best. I don’t think I’ll incorporate that into the game b/c this is one of the fundamentals that makes AAM unique. Not only that I’m not going to go out of my way to collect every unit there is to make this happen, I’m going to use what I have.
-LT04
Understood… But if the 505th lands just south of Groesbeek Heights, what does that say to me? What about Glider Infantry? What separates them? Special rules?
GG
GG,
Well if every PIR has say 40 points assigned to it. It still gives the player options as to how s/he wants to diversify there forces. Maybe you would want lots of little crapy units farther ahead and more valuable units in Groesbeek Heights where they have the safety of the city to surround them. I picked those landing sites based on how the 82nd historically landed. They deployed as PIRs. As far as the 325 goes maybe we would allow it to be the only unit to have vehicles. The others can only have INF and ART units that fit into the soldier category. Then I would have to say XXX Corps could have what ever the player wanted.
-LT04
Alright the first Idea is cool with me…
Right, Glider Infantry Divisions get some Additional Points and they should be allowed the 3" Gun, 17Lber, Jeep, and Bren Carrier.
Keep it rolling…
GG
Hey,
I was reading in another area on this site and heard that some made a 3’ by 8’ map and used a 400 point army, and used about half of the available space.
I think this is very good news. I was worried about units being stuck together like lobsters in a tank. Also given the fact that we will have three secular points to focus on will divide some confusion too. Plus our map will be bigger.
Due to the over exaggeration on the scale of the map I think we should push for as many units as possible. With the Armhem area I’m about finished just some minor fixing that I won’t get around to, till later this week. (D*** day job seriously cuts into my free time) I’ll assemble a 400 point army for that section alone with low costing troops and see if it looks to over crowded.
FOCUS OF THE WEEK: Let’s move onto Eindhoven.
OPASITION: The German 59th INF was there does any one know who else was?
BRIDGES: I see a bridge in Veghal in the far north of their section.
Another in St. Dedenrode
Was it the one in Son that was destroyed prior to arrival?
Were there only three?
RANGE: Did 101st venture as far out as Helmond?
SUPRISES: Where there any unusual things (that I’m unaware of) that happened here that need to be considered to incorporate into the game?
I hope this week will be as productive as the last. Again that’s for all your help.
-LT04
As far as surprises go, the Allies were unaware of Panzer units in the area that had recently been located there. Don’t forget the terrain, particularly Hell’s Highway. It was an uphill battle (not literally, just that tanks were sitting ducks on that road).
I don’t know how much of a role the Dutch Resistance played after the drop (besides helping with the river crossings of the British and Polish troops), but that may be another factor on the Allies side.
The bridge at Son was blown, I believe. The Veghel one was an alternative. Look it up though, I’m just going by memory.
I can’t get the d*** map pic I have to post. It says it’s can’t be any larger than 128 KB. Any one have any ideas let me know maybe I could e-mail it to someone and let them post it.
-LT04
You could hotlink it here after hosting to another site.
Or, pull it into something like MS paint & resize it.
Here’s something you can try: http://home.cshore.com/bucwheat/iview.htm
There was a bridge at Best (Son alternate) and it was heavily fought over… I would incorporate that… There was not a very much opposition at Eindhoven except in the city by the 59th…
St. Edenrode is towards the south I believe only advanced on by the XXX Corps. Veghel was the farthest north that was landed on by the 101…
GG
Lets try this.
-LT04
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Hey,
Sorry for the low budget map. At least this one fit. Each space there is 2†on the real on. I couldn’t fit the names of all the cities and villages so here they are.
4 L-M = Oosterbeck
3 T, 4 S-U, 5 S-U, 6 S-T = Arnhem
12 N = Eist
19&20 N-P = Nijmegen
21&22 S-T = Groesbeek Heights
I think that’s all of them. The Northern river is the Lower Rhine. The middle is the Waal River. The lower is the Maas River.
Remember this is only map one of two. The second half will start at line 25. Also I would like some ideas regarding placement of terrain such as hills and forests. On the real map the rivers and roads don’t look so boxy.
Let me know what you think.
-LT04
Well I hope the Ghettoness of my map didn’t scare everyone away from this topic.
-LT04
it won’t… it does look odd, but I think I can manage the “understanding” of it. Sure its 100 meters per hex?
GG
No it isn’t. It’s 1,000 meters per space in real life. I didn’t want to make it all the way to scale it’s already 4’ by 8’.
-LT04
ah OK that makes sense… It looks good even though its confusing
GG
You could try using color filters in XL that would be a bit easier on the eyes.
Yeah I hope to finish the second half this week and I post both maps as one in color.
I’m still looking for ideas about how many points for each unit.
This next week I also want ideas about the rules.
-LT04
current points aren’t good?
also, do you want “polders” affecting movement…?
GG
GG,
What’s wrong with the current points?
What’s a “polders”
-LT04
The current points are fine to me… I thought you were going to change them…
Polders are the “lowlands” in Holland, the “flooded fields” that were the reason the XXX Corps had to use the roads to get up to Arnhem… And the Polders are everywhere in Holland…
GG
