OK ill do just that!
Now fair thing to Jeff he was right about Thailand which changed it’s name from Siam on June 24th 1939 and as I understand it the map starts 1st september 1939 correct?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thailand
Also, Baluchistan is NOT Pakistan, but just one of several provinces which were merged into Pakistan in 1947.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan
Of course I have other issues with the names, like “West Africa” in the central Sahara. But never let it be said i don’t give credit where it’s due.
I would love to buy the Wargame, but it pisses me off that this Jeff ruined Atlantic with art. Pictures of tanks and infantry all over the Atlantic sea, was he smoking weed when he made the map ?
I propably buy it anyway, and cannibalize the Tiger tanks for my A&A Revised houserules.
I don’t mind the pics, but if it was me I would have put my face in more of them then the one. :wink:
Adlertag: the box is huge, If it helps, it was about 36 Inchs x 18 Inches x 6 Inches and I’ll check the weight tonight, but I’d guess 20 to 25 pounds.
Adlertag: the box is huge, If it helps, it was about 36 Inchs x 18 Inches x 6 Inches and I’ll check the weight tonight, but I’d guess 20 to 25 pounds.
Wow, it won’t be cheap shipping this to Norway
IL, I really want this game, but if I buy now, maybe Jeff make a new map next year, a better map without art in the Atlantic. Can anyone guarantee that this map will not get revised the next 5 years ?
The map will never be changed it has remained the same since its inception in 1990. 17 years is a good track record. Also, I once tried to convince him to change it and that was a no go. I think thats 1000% no changes no matter what.
The only thing that will possibly change is nation specific pieces after about 3-5 more 2,000 print runs of the game. You gotta buy at least one copy. You will thank me for this.
Jeff didn’t return email on shipping. I would just place an order and ask for shipping quote
I am strongly considering ordering this game, but i have a few questions? First of all is it balanced, this is an issue with A&AR, is it one here, after all, it is 5vs3? Also I read on thewargame.com that the Axis start at a total income of 236 IPC and the Allies win if this goes lower than 225 IPC, this seems too easy, am I wrong or what? All the pieces are German, but are they painted different colors (I assume they are, but am just checking)? About how long would it take for me to receive this item in Massachusetts? Overall is this game worth the $125?
IL has played it a lot, and believes it’s too easy for Germany to defeat Russia.
The pieces are made in 8 different colours, I don’t think there are any neutral pieces.
Is this a major problem, is Jeff working on this, or is it something that only requires giving extra IPC’s or inf to Russia to boost defense?
I am strongly considering ordering this game, but i have a few questions? First of all is it balanced, this is an issue with A&AR, is it one here, after all, it is 5vs3? Also I read on thewargame.com that the Axis start at a total income of 236 IPC and the Allies win if this goes lower than 225 IPC, this seems too easy, am I wrong or what? All the pieces are German, but are they painted different colors (I assume they are, but am just checking)? About how long would it take for me to receive this item in Massachusetts? Overall is this game worth the $125?
IMO The Soviets fall too predictively in 5-6 turns. This has no bearing on the outcome of the game as a player keeps fighting on after the Capital falls ( note the spelling) If the Soviets were ABLE survive then Germany is doomed. The game is extremely balanced but does not seem so after a few plays. First the axis, then the allies and back again the axis seem to have the upper hand. The Axis start with less income as a ratio to allies, while the allies arent going to push the axis around below 225 unless you play a longer game. All pieces using the same molds, while future editions in 3-5 years will all have nation specific molds. Thats quite a hurdle considering the price point and your getting a freeking 6x3 foot thick Cardboard map… the largest ever produced. For $100 bucks its a no brainer considering the game plays will ( even with soviets falling kinda easy)
I’m not as experienced at the game as IL, but I own it and think the map by it’s self was worth $125. I haven’t played enough to see if it’s balanced yet though. In any case I think Balance can be fixed easily enough if it becomes necessary.
BTY, if things go the way I hope I will have the opportunaty to try this game out with two other members of this site in Oct. So there will be some more oppinions comming soon. :wink:
BTY, if things go the way I hope I will have the opportunaty to try this game out with two other members of this site in Oct. So there will be some more oppinions comming soon. :wink:
To judge from your avatar, I sure hope they are smart enough to let you win
LOL, that’s funny considering your avatar and the message under it.
I have this game. I brought it to the IAAPA convention and a number of us played it and we had a blast. Hard for most to understand that if the capital of Russia falls the game wasnt over. The German player had hoped so and stretched himself a bit and it allowed the UK to take Greece and set up a base there. The Japanese player never really got going… Got Peking and one other territory but that was it. Even losing Okinawa to the Free French!
I like the game. Will do more testing and turns take a while in the beginning but it is a great game to play. Enough with retreats and pass throughs to allow some long term planning. Best part was buying and placing units at the end of your turn.
I recommend this game. It is fun and a good addition to anyones A&A type collection.
They had this game on ebay with everything but the pieces and I almost got it but AxisandDallas did. Only $53. :cry:
I only paid $100 but I picked it up at Gencon so no shipping but I have the pieces…. Do gotta like seeing UK tiger tanks :P
Not bad for 100 bucks and 12 hours of playing with the first game.
The game looks really cool except the only german pieces. That really is a killjoy. Still awesome though. Still can’t afford though for over $100 dollars. Thats why I tried to get it off ebay. No dice though.
I just got the game and realized that there is a shortage of pieces, especially artillery. There is not even enough artillery to set the game up according to the set-up charts, is this a common issue?
I just got the game and realized that there is a shortage of pieces, especially artillery. There is not even enough artillery to set the game up according to the set-up charts, is this a common issue?
even with using the red and white chips? :-o
To be honest, I didn’t notice. I put the new pieces into my organizers that already have pieces from three different games. (2nd Ed, Revised and W@W)
