Ah OK.
So on G1 I buy 2 figs, 2 arm, 4 inf. (this was just my thought, I might switch to a strait inf. and art. buy)
So you DO have a bid, right?
Sounds like it:
Take egypt with bid units and a bomber.
Lol @ my illiteracy.
But if there are bid UNITS, that’s at least 8 IPC for Germany. (2 IPC in the bank for a 42 IPC G1 buy, and 6 IPC for two infantry in Libya).
If I had 8 IPC, a Baltic transport for G1 invasion of London looks pretty sweet to me. ASSUMING he’s playing OOB/FAQ.
True. Although when he said “bid units” he might have meant “bid unit plus Libya units” as I assume he would use existing Libya units in his attempt to take Egypt. Not literally what he said but still possible.
Why you still play OOB, G?
I think the German fleet is a lost cause.
My plans for the bid was to use a tank and inf in Africa plus the units that are there to take Egypt. An extra transport would be great in the baltic but then you probably can’t take Egypt without committing your battleship.
I’d still suggest committing your battleship to Egypt G1 then if you still want to try the merge on G2 you can then take Gibraltar and merge the remnants of the baltic fleet in sz13 with BB/trn. Do you gain a lot by taking Gibraltar G1 on a channel dash? I don’t really see it.
If you don;t take Gibraltar on the Channel Dash, and if you move the Med fleet west, the med fleet dies. That is really the only reason to take Gibraltar in Revised (though a Gibraltar Tank Factory was a fun Classic strat…)
Yes, but what are your thoughts on delaying moving the med fleet west by 1 round on the channel dash?
I hate, as Germany, to vacate the only port that defends the capital. Gonna have to really think about this one.
If I’m UK and I see that fleet move, I will kill it at all cost. And beg the US to help!
Channel Dash is fun, it almost forces the Allies to build heavy navy just to stop you. Can delay the fall of Germany a significant amount of time if Japan can pick up the pace a little.
Right, well I don’t usually abandon the baltic either, but I think it’s pretty clear to me now that you either add to the baltic fleet or go for the channel dash. Leaving it there without adding to it is nonsensical.
this is not completel true. the transport can be really helpful to getting people into russia through leningrad
I usually do neither. I use the Med fleet to secure Africa, I ignore the Baltic fleet except to reclaim Norway or move more troops to Karelia/E. Europe or to W. Europe until it is sunk.
Most british players are going to attack your naked fleet and lose valuable fighters in the process. Rare is the battle England escapes without suffering at least two hits on their valuable fighters and sinks your fleet.
I usually do neither. I use the Med fleet to secure Africa, I ignore the Baltic fleet except to reclaim Norway or move more troops to Karelia/E. Europe or to W. Europe until it is sunk.
Most british players are going to attack your naked fleet and lose valuable fighters in the process. Rare is the battle England escapes without suffering at least two hits on their valuable fighters and sinks your fleet.
With a “channel dash”, you can simply use the BB and trans, attack 1 round, then retreat. The BB soaks up one hit, so you can lose 1 transport instead of 2 fighters.
Squirecam
I usually do neither. I use the Med fleet to secure Africa, I ignore the Baltic fleet except to reclaim Norway or move more troops to Karelia/E. Europe or to W. Europe until it is sunk.
Most british players are going to attack your naked fleet and lose valuable fighters in the process. Rare is the battle England escapes without suffering at least two hits on their valuable fighters and sinks your fleet.
With a “channel dash”, you can simply use the BB and trans, attack 1 round, then retreat. The BB soaks up one hit, so you can lose 1 transport instead of 2 fighters.
Squirecam
And you quoted me why? The SZ 5 fleet, of which I was speaking, under attack by England in Round 1 has what, exactly, to do with Germany attacking SZ 13 with her battleship?
Sorry, just wanted a little clarification. Maybe you’re confused, maybe I’m confursed.
I think Squire was refering to a B1 attack with the British BB, TRN, fighters and bomber attacking the German Baltic fleet in SZ7 (after the first round channel dash attempt).
Adding to Jen’s point about just leaving the Baltic fleet where it is, if the British or US try to move a fleet in close to the baltic to use as fodder in taking out this fleet, Germany can in turn use their baltic fleet as fodder to take out the allied fleet with their airforce. So it ofter has to be just airpower that takes out the baltic fleet, or an overwhelmingly large allied fleet that Germany doesn’t have the firepower to take out even with the baltic fleet as fodder. But it takes time for the allies to build up a fleet that large, and in the meantime the German interior territories can be defended much more lightly with their baltic fleet intact.
Good point. The baltic fleet solo may not be able to take out a combined British and American fleet, but it can soak up 4 hits allowing the 6 fighters, bomber and destroyer to inflict some damage without losing anything that wouldn’t be lost soon anyway.
BTW, I’d never leave just the Baltic fleet sitting naked in the English Channel (SZ 7). Who would do such a thing and WHY???
Yes, but what are your thoughts on delaying moving the med fleet west by 1 round on the channel dash?
That UK simply kills the German fleet on UK 1 using AF in whatever SZ it dashes too instead of doing so in SZ5 (and UK builds FIGs to replace lost air units so that at the end of UK1, Germany is out a Baltic Fleet, UK is out NOTHING.)
