Mapview Questions

You’re right that this rule is ambigious in this rule book. But to me the intention of the game makers is very clear. That shows not from this rule book, but from all rule books after this version. For example in the rule book from 1943 2nd, They state specifically that all strategic bombing raids take place first. This resolves any argument about who pays the IPC’s to the bank, the attacker or the defender! Since they solved this in the next rule book, i think it is quite obvious what they intended and tried to correct.

@P@nther:

@steve400:

So in my scenario the defending sub can submerge and avoid taking the hit ???

No. The decision to submerge is made in the “Press Attack or Retreat Step”.
This is before rolling the dice again.

Ah! Enlightenment. Many thanks  :-)

1)  Any one territory of your choice (that doesn’t already have one, of course).  It works like any other IC.

2)  Your sub must either fight or move away in combat movement.

3)  His ships must either fight or move away in combat movement.

4)  No, nor after being offloaded.

5).  Fighters launch before their carrier moves, so they both begin their movement in the same sea zone.  Likewise, fighters land after their carrier moves, so they must both end their movement in the same sea zone.

@Ranor:

LHTR 2.0 says to this:

“If the attacker has not withdrawn all units, defending submarines may submerge.”

This implies defending subs submerge after the attacker has chosen to either retreat (or submerge) or not.

(page 16 - Condition B) Defender withdraws subs by submerging)

Page 14 is more to the point.

It categorically states that the Attacker choses to press the attack or retreat BEFORE defending submarines chose to submerge or remain surfaced.

If you are referring to the original A&A (Classic), then I don’t think that was the rule.  You could always load/unload in the same turn, to my knowledge.

At this stage I am only playing board games (not online).

Surely LHTR do not cover all the rules - that are there are still parts of the games that the rule book do not clarify which means you have to make things up….

Yes, you can do the move described in the first post (move, then load, then offload).

I believe the theory behind not allowing transports to offload in two territories is the fact that deployment into significantly different areas will take time.  For example - if you have a division in Alaska, and another in Western Canada, and there are no enemies nearby, you could meet up halfway and get on a transport.  But if you are on a transport and offloading, that transport would have to sail to a different region to offload troops in any geographically significant other location.  So FUNCTIONALLY, the transport can only offload into one territory.

Just think of it this way:  Since trannies are NOT involved in the attack (they are not even on the battle board) then they don’t have to “waste any part of their move” getting to the objective.  However, any BBs or DDs that contributed to a battle offshore canNOT bombard during the amphibious assault.