Two Rules Questions

@mozkaynak:

So, My understanding is that  fighters and bombers can attack submarine by themselves and submarine can not fire back.
Please confirm that.

Correct.

@mozkaynak:

So how does submerging work here?

Subs may submerge at the end of any round of combat if there are no opposing destroyers in the battle at that point (as long as the battle is not over).  They have no effect on other units while submerged, and are ignored.  They resurface at the end of the noncombat movement phase, having no effect on enemy units in the sea zone at that point.

@Lithiume3:

1. Does all sub start the game submerged? or it’s just a defensive move then after the fight the sub does the sub is getting out of the water and can be targeted by planes, by the next player who do attacks?

It’s a defensive move.  Subs submerge in combat, then resurface after noncombat movement on the same turn.

@Lithiume3:

2. The Wolf Packs Rule
Wolf packs of U-boats prowled the Atlantic, working together to down Allied convoys. The only sure thing
about a U-boat was that there always was another nearby.
If at least three of your submarines make a combat move into a single sea zone, they attack on a 3 (4 if you
have the Super Submarines development). They may come from different sea zones, but they must attack the
same sea zone.

If you begin a fight at 3 U-boats you attack at 3, then if 1 U-boats is downed do you still attack @3 the reste of the fight or since there is less than 3 you downgrade the attack to normal.

They attack at 3 for the whole battle, even if some are destroyed.

@Lithiume3:

3.Island Bases
MacArthur’s forces built many airbases on the islands they conquered. From these bases, they could launch
attacks deeper into Japanese-held territory.
When moving your air units, you may treat island groups as part of the sea zones containing them.
For example, a fighter (move 4) could travel from Hawaii to the East Indies in one turn, assuming your side
controlled both island groups.

I have no idea what up with that… when we are moving over islands can fighter go around the island?? or it as to pass over it and if there’s a AA the AA attack?

If a plane is just passing through the sea zone en route somewhere else, it does not fly over the island.  This NA refers to taking off from and landing on islands.

@Lithiume3:

4. Does AA always attack if a aircraft flies over the AA ?

Yes.

@Lithiume3:

5.Can fighter attack Subs when they are on a Carrier that is been attack by subs? If not what happens to the jet if the carrier is sunk.

Yes, fighters can hit subs.  If the carrier is sunk, the fighters will be able to move one space to land after the battle.  Any land territory that was attacked this turn may not be landed in.  If no landing space is available, they will be lost.

@Lithiume3:

6.When bomber attack a complex; roll a dice 4 and under Attack successfull. Do we reroll a dice to know the IPC “damage”?

You don’t have to roll to hit when doing a strategic bombing raid.  You just roll one die for each surviving bomber and destroy that number of IPCs.

Thanks +1.

LT

if it were free for all trading may work. you would need countries to have difernt units. like and japanese fighter defending on 5 and russian fighters on a 3. then russia could be like i’ll buy a japaese fighter for m japanfor 10 ipcs. japan would (if it were to trade) buy on figther and  put it on a transport or in a bomber. the transport/bomber would have to drop the fghter off somewhere in russia.

But it IS a simplification in terms of game mechanics.  And I recently LOST an argument where “game mechanics” won out over logic (see the topic Multinational Units on Attack).

Movement of each type occurs all at one time;  all combat movement occurs at once, all non-combat movement occurs after that, THEN the place units phase, then collecct income.  There is no non-combat movement of FIGs after unit placement, which the old rule REQUIRES.  That is the “simplification.”

Actually, this was teh thread that started teh whole thing that led to LHTR 1.3.  It was about using friendly ships that were already in an enemy occupied sea zone as fodder for your attack on those enemy ships.

Under the new LHTR that came out of this, the Allies can NOT use those US ships that are already in SZ59 as fodder for a UK attack on the Japan ships in SZ59.

This became the “Multinational Forces on Attack” thread.

Subs always can only hit naval units. It doesn’t actually make a difference in which step they fire when an enemy destroyer is present, as long as you can keep track. I prefer to roll black die for subs, white die for fighters, and in this manner get 2 types of units rolled hopefully in one toss of the die.

You can also download the ABattleMap. There you can see the correct unit placement.

http://www.flames-of-europe.de/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=2