Alternate Turn 1 buys…

I have bought a German BB on turn 1.  It works kind of like the German carrier on turn 1.  More money invested, but the free shot is useful sometimes.

@newpaintbrush:

@ncscswitch:

Germany:
1 BB (Baltic)

This isn’t ENTIRELY crackpipish, but 24 IPC is a mighty investment.  I would perhaps consider this purchase depending on the Russian move, because of the possibility of using amphibious support shots against Karelia and Norway, combined with the protection of the Baltic fleet on G1, makes it POSSIBLY viable.  But a battleship build means Germany MUST either consolidate its navy on G2, or build MORE Baltic navy (with the consequent Russian press on Germany).  Why so?  Because UK can counter with 3 fighters, while German invasion of London is prevented by US and UK fleets consolidating southwest of London.  So the question really becomes, did Germany have an African bid that allowed the Mediterranean fleet to move west, or does it look like Germany is going to be in a position to spend more on navy (i.e. did Russia overextend itself like crazy).

@cyan:

@cyan:

J1 this helps for a sea lion game and also if japan whats to be apart of africa so germany can dash to moscow
1ic to east indies
1ic To indochina

if japan gets a 1 ipc bid could build 2 trns instead of both ics

Imagine if you combined this 2. the africa thing wouldn’t much matter and there could be a possiblty to hurt the uk badly.

Anyone up for a game? pref LL

ALternate KJF:
Russia:  8 inf  buy leave nice stack in buryatia(tempting for the japs attact it.) and move into perrsia and china

UK: 2 ic 1 to india and austraila. land fighter in india and move navy off austraila coast.

US: 2ic to alsaska and china and 2tech(if playing with it) or save it(maybe even 1 fig)

okay heres just  something you can try out Rus 1: 1 ic to kar and 3 inf to cauc.  is this a bad idea. eventhough you can stack in karelia so it doesn’t fall and the allies can reinforce you. this just lets you  strike a lot of territories  from kar that you can’t reach from cauc.

i was thimking germany buying 1 ac+ 2 dd.  i will try a wacky german navel buy soon.

@mojo:

i was thimking germany buying 1 ac+ 2 dd.  i will try a wacky german navel buy soon.

like if ukraine can hold untill Ger2 : then 1st round 2trn and 2inf and 2art to italy and 1 fig for germany. if not you can  build more rns becuase the arm and inf will already to be picked up.  this will allow you to invavde cauc by sea.

What are the traditional Turn 1 buys?

@ncscswitch:

Russia:
3 INF, 1 ARM ,1 FIG

why whould anyone need a fig for russia? that one makes no sense

Actually that is my buy. I use it along with 2 inf to recap any one of these: bel ukr len. I dont like to let the german player hold land, while i hammer him from the other side.

There was also a game on these boards where Russia used a similar buy to take out the GER med fleet in R2 with the large russian AF.  Was it Adonai?

@rjclayton:

There was also a game on these boards where Russia used a similar buy to take out the GER med fleet in R2 with the large russian AF.  Was it Adonai?

That happened to me. 3 FTRs from CAU to SZ15 to hammer the BB and TRN. Cost two FTRs for Russia though. I think that was the 2 on 2 game we just lost.

edit: It was the game Jen and I just lost against JSP. It was Mech who made the move before retiring from the game.

@ncscswitch:

Russia:
8 INF
3 INF, 3 ARM
3 INF, 1 ARM ,1 FIG
4 INF, 3 ART

Germany:
1 AC, 8 INF
9 INF, 3 ARM
10 INF, 3 ART

UK: 
3 FIG
1 AC, 1 TRN, 2 INF

Japan:
4 TRN (w/ bid)
1 IC, 2 TRN (w/ bid)
3 TRN, 2 INF

USA:
INF, ARM, and TRN’s

Asian IC’s buys excluded from the above…

Those are ncsswitch’s standard buys.

I have a VERY DIFFERENT SET OF BUYS.

HAHAHAHAHA!

gratutious evil laugh

Haha, thats insane.

I usually have 4 INF 3 ART on R1.

@Cobert:

Haha, thats insane.

I usually have 4 INF 3 ART on R1.

now someone here  has some sense. why do you need the rusian to take out the german navy. what are the british doing  smoking tea leaves? you need to take as much land as possible from the germans.

USA 1:

2 Bombers

USA 2:

2 Bombers

USA 3:

Trans/Infantry

USA 4: Germany has no income, doesn’t matter what you’re buying. :)

Okay, only really works well in LL because of the 3.5 IPC damage vs 2.5 return fire damage rule.  That’s a benefit of 5 IPC for America and you’re only using American infantry for support anyway, tnaks are nice, but not needed.  Let england capture it all, she’s closer to Europe anyway.

@cyan:

@ncscswitch:

Russia:
3 INF, 1 ARM ,1 FIG

why whould anyone need a fig for russia? that one makes no sense

I’ve used this buy successfully many times.  I will usually add a 4th fighter in R2 or R3.  The fighters give Russia a lot of flexiblity.  From the caucasus they can reach all of eastern europe most of Central Asia and India.  Also they are very useful when your trading territory with Germany.