2025 PTV PO#2-Max (L) v AoW(X+12)

max334

I was looking at Germany’s last round thinking it might have been better for Germany to retreat to Paris after the second round of battle. After the second round the US was down to only three units. Germany’s retreat could have saved the panzer divisions from counterattack. It would have left the US the factory in Southern France but still that’s only three new units not really much compared to having the panzers exposed. Just wanted to share my observation even though I still think the axis is lost irregardless and has been for a few rounds

ArtofWar1947

@max334

I did think of that but after I too quickly hit the “no retreat option.” I considered asking your permission to disregard the last round of the battle and swing the tanks into France, but I had already rolled the dice and thought it a bit too much to ask.

max334

Probably not too much to ask other than my thinking that we are just delaying the inevitable. There is no hope left for the axis in my opinion but I guess it’s okay just for the fun of playing.

ArtofWar1947

@max334

If you are willing to grant permission to retreat from the last round of the S. France, I’ll take it. Whatever the case. the Axis’ prospects I admit are extremely dim, but I’d like to play on with the slimmest of hope.

max334

Not trying to offend you but there is no hope there is 0% chance. Even if the axis has many huge victories and wins numerous battles the war is lost. I don’t know if you like to look at numbers but look at the TUV difference between the allies and axis.

ArtofWar1947

@max334

At this point, I am playing to see what can be learned and have a little fun. I am not sure how long this will last, but today I’d like to continue.

max334

Okay I can grant that, but only if you make an agreement to limit this to only a few more rounds. It is fun and educational but only to a certain point after which it gets monotonous and loses those qualities. Where that point is I’m not sure but it’s very close

ArtofWar1947

@max334

Okay, if the Axis cannot make significant progress in closing the TUV gap and pushing the Allies back in the near the future, I will certainly be ready to concede and move on.

max334

@ArtofWar1947 okay make the edits as you see fit and we’ll rerun the round

ArtofWar1947

@max334

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Thank you for being a good sport.

Game History

Round: 14

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 2 artilleries and 13 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        4 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 17 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
        4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Southern Italy to Southern France
        7 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Austria to Southern France
        1 infantry moved from France to Southern France
        3 armour, 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Southern France
        3 fighters moved from Germany to Southern France
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 116 Sea Zone to Southern France
        1 transport moved from 116 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Finland to 118 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 118 Sea Zone to 117 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 117 Sea Zone to Poland
        1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 116 Sea Zone to 117 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Germany to Poland

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Poland
            Germans attack with 2 artilleries and 4 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            Germans win, taking Poland from Russians with 2 artilleries and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
            Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
        Battle in Southern France
            Germans attack with 14 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 12 fighters, 18 infantry, 7 mech_infantrys and 8 tactical_bombers
            British defend with 1 aaGun, 3 armour, 5 artilleries, 1 bomber, 10 infantry and 1 marine; Americans defend with 2 aaGuns, 3 armour, 6 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour, 15 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans win, taking Southern France from Americans with 12 armour, 12 fighters and 8 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 80
            Casualties for Germans: 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 18 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys
            Casualties for British: 1 aaGun, 3 armour, 5 artilleries, 1 bomber, 10 infantry and 1 marine
            Casualties for Americans: 2 aaGuns, 3 armour, 6 artilleries, 15 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        2 aaGuns moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern France to Southern Italy
        7 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Slovakia Hungary to Western Germany
        3 fighters moved from Southern France to Germany
        3 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Southern France to France
        4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Southern France to Western Germany
        4 infantry moved from Western Germany to France
        1 aaGun moved from Romania to Bulgaria
        1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Slovakia Hungary
        2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Austria
        4 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria
        1 infantry moved from Western Germany to France

    Place Units - Germans
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in France
        1 artillery and 7 infantry placed in Western Germany
        4 infantry placed in Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 40 PUs; end with 40 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 45 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Western Germany: 4 armour, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Germany: 4 armour, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from France: 1 tactical_bomber
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Germany: 1 tactical_bomber
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

max334

TripleA Move Summary: Russians round 14

TripleA Move Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 14

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 5 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Baltic States to Poland
        2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Slovakia Hungary
        1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Romania
        1 artillery moved from Eastern Poland to Slovakia Hungary
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northern Belarus to Poland
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Slovakia Hungary
        7 armour, 8 artilleries, 21 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Romania
        1 fighter moved from Leningrad to Poland
        5 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Siberia to Amur
              Russians take Amur from Japanese

Savegame

max334

sorry for delay. couple of scramble options

ArtofWar1947

@max334

No problem. A train wreck at work has kept me busy any way.

NO scrambles.

max334

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 14

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 14

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 5 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Baltic States to Poland
        2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Slovakia Hungary
        1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Romania
        1 artillery moved from Eastern Poland to Slovakia Hungary
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northern Belarus to Poland
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Slovakia Hungary
        7 armour, 8 artilleries, 21 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Romania
        1 fighter moved from Leningrad to Poland
        5 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Siberia to Amur
              Russians take Amur from Japanese

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Poland
            Russians attack with 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 2 artilleries and 4 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Poland, round 2 : 3/11 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 artilleries and 4 infantry in Poland, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Poland
                3 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Poland
                Russians roll dice for 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Poland, round 3 : 6/8 hits, 3.17 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 artilleries and 1 infantry in Poland, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Poland
                2 artilleries owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Poland
            Russians win, taking Poland from Germans with 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Russians: 4 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 2 artilleries and 4 infantry
        Battle in Slovakia Hungary
            Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Slovakia Hungary, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Slovakia Hungary, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Slovakia Hungary
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Slovakia Hungary
            Russians win, taking Slovakia Hungary from Germans with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Romania
            Russians attack with 7 armour, 8 artilleries, 22 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 7 armour, 8 artilleries, 22 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Romania, round 2 : 13/39 hits, 11.83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Romania, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Romania
            Russians win, taking Romania from Germans with 7 armour, 8 artilleries, 22 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
        1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Leningrad
        3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Smolensk to Northern Belarus
        1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk
        2 armour moved from Southern Belarus to Leningrad
        4 armour moved from Northern Belarus to Eastern Poland
        3 armour and 2 infantry moved from Baltic States to Eastern Poland
        1 armour moved from Leningrad to Archangel
        1 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia
        1 aaGun moved from Siberia to Amur
        1 submarine moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Russians
        1 factory_minor placed in Ukraine
        3 artilleries placed in Leningrad
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Siberia
        1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 5 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,5
        Russians collect 54 PUs; end with 54 PUs
        Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 57 PUs
        Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 59 PUs
        Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 61 PUs
        Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 9 PUs; end with 70 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 1.33
Russians regular : 4.33

Savegame

ArtofWar1947

@max334

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Got the train back on the tracks, if not running on time.

Scramble to SZ 23?

max334

sorry, I was out of town. No scramble

ArtofWar1947

@max334

No problem.

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Game History

Round: 14

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 artillery, 10 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Guam to 23 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 22 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 22 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 22 Sea Zone to Fukien
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Fukien
        2 marines moved from Guam to 22 Sea Zone
        4 artilleries moved from Anhwe to Jehol
        1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol
        1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Korea to 6 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Jehol
        1 infantry moved from Marianas to 22 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 2 marines, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport moved from 22 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
        2 fighters, 1 infantry, 2 marines and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 20 Sea Zone to Jehol

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in 21 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 fighter
            British defend with 1 transport
            Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for British: 1 transport
        Battle in Fukien
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 2 infantry
            Japanese win, taking Fukien from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 2 infantry
        Battle in 23 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers
            Americans defend with 1 destroyer
            Japanese win with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
        Battle in Jehol
            Japanese attack with 1 armour, 5 artilleries, 2 fighters, 4 infantry, 2 marines and 2 tactical_bombers
            Chinese defend with 2 artilleries and 6 infantry
            Japanese win, taking Jehol from Chinese with 1 armour, 5 artilleries, 2 fighters, 3 infantry, 2 marines and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 23
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Chinese: 2 artilleries and 6 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        3 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Northern Manchuria to Southern Manchuria
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Korea to Southern Manchuria
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Jehol to 20 Sea Zone
        5 carriers, 4 destroyers, 3 submarines and 6 transports moved from 22 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from 23 Sea Zone to Japan
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 23 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Fukien to 21 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 21 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Fukien to Kwangtung
        2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung
        1 aaGun moved from Anhwe to Jehol

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Kwangtung
        3 infantry placed in Shantung
        6 infantry placed in Japan
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Kwangtung: 1 tactical_bomber
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Japan: 1 tactical_bomber
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs
        Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 33 PUs

2025 PTV PO#2-Max (L) v AoW(X+12)

TripleA Move Summary: Russians round 14

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 14

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