Gamerman01 v TheGoodCaptain (+8) Loser bracket final

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Classic League

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 1 aaGun, 1 fighter and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Ukraine S.S.R.
              Russians take Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans
        2 fighters moved from Karelia S.S.R. to East Mediteranean Sea Zone
        3 armour moved from Russia to Finland Norway
        3 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Finland Norway

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in East Mediteranean Sea Zone
            Russians attack with 2 fighters
            Germans defend with 1 transport
                Russians roll dice for 2 fighters in East Mediteranean Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 transport in East Mediteranean Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 transport owned by the Germans lost in East Mediteranean Sea Zone
            Russians win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Germans: 1 transport
        Battle in Finland Norway
            Russians attack with 3 armour and 3 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 armour and 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 3 armour and 3 infantry in Finland Norway, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Finland Norway, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Finland Norway
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Finland Norway
                Russians roll dice for 3 armour and 1 infantry in Finland Norway, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Finland Norway, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 3 armour and 1 infantry in Finland Norway, round 4 : 2/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Finland Norway, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Finland Norway
            Russians win, taking Finland Norway from Germans with 3 armour and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
            Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 armour and 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        1 transport moved from Karelia Sea Zone to North Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from East Canada Sea Zone to North Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Karelia S.S.R.
        2 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Novosibirsk
        1 aaGun moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Finland Norway
        1 aaGun moved from Novosibirsk to Russia
        2 fighters moved from East Mediteranean Sea Zone to Syria Jordan
        1 armour moved from Novosibirsk to Karelia S.S.R.

    Place Units - Russians
        1 aaGun, 1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Karelia S.S.R.

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 27 PUs; end with 28 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 0.50
Russians regular : -1.33

Savegame

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Russians round 2

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: Classic League

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 1 aaGun, 1 fighter and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Ukraine S.S.R.
              Russians take Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans
        2 fighters moved from Karelia S.S.R. to East Mediteranean Sea Zone
        3 armour moved from Russia to Finland Norway
        3 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Finland Norway

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in East Mediteranean Sea Zone
            Russians attack with 2 fighters
            Germans defend with 1 transport
                Russians roll dice for 2 fighters in East Mediteranean Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 transport in East Mediteranean Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 transport owned by the Germans lost in East Mediteranean Sea Zone
            Russians win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Germans: 1 transport
        Battle in Finland Norway
            Russians attack with 3 armour and 3 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 armour and 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 3 armour and 3 infantry in Finland Norway, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Finland Norway, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Finland Norway
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Finland Norway
                Russians roll dice for 3 armour and 1 infantry in Finland Norway, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Finland Norway, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 3 armour and 1 infantry in Finland Norway, round 4 : 2/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Finland Norway, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Finland Norway
            Russians win, taking Finland Norway from Germans with 3 armour and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
            Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 armour and 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        1 transport moved from Karelia Sea Zone to North Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from East Canada Sea Zone to North Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Karelia S.S.R.
        2 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Novosibirsk
        1 aaGun moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Finland Norway
        1 aaGun moved from Novosibirsk to Russia
        2 fighters moved from East Mediteranean Sea Zone to Syria Jordan
        1 armour moved from Novosibirsk to Karelia S.S.R.

    Place Units - Russians
        1 aaGun, 1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Karelia S.S.R.

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 27 PUs; end with 28 PUs
        COMMENT: No AA guns in the box

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 0.50
Russians regular : -1.33

Savegame

USA and Russia bought the 3 AA guns, and I added a comment to the game log.

If one sinks on a transport, then it can be purchased again, right?

Man it’s so great to have you around. I’m glad to know the rules.

Is Australia an island for purposes of landing stranded fighters?

TripleA Turn Summary: British round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Classic League

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 1 fighter and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 8 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 fighter and 1 infantry moved from Kenya-Rhodesia to Anglo Sudan Egypt
        1 bomber moved from Italian East Africa to Anglo Sudan Egypt
        1 armour moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Zone
        1 armour and 1 transport moved from North Sea Zone to West Africa Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from West Africa Sea Zone to French West Africa
              British take French West Africa from Germans

    Combat - British
        Battle in Anglo Sudan Egypt
            British attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 armour and 1 infantry
                British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Anglo Sudan Egypt, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Anglo Sudan Egypt, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Anglo Sudan Egypt
                British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Anglo Sudan Egypt, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Anglo Sudan Egypt, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Anglo Sudan Egypt
                1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Anglo Sudan Egypt
            British win with 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
            Casualties for Germans: 1 armour and 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - British
        COMMENT: 2 UK on Russia TP
        1 armour moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 carrier, 2 fighters and 1 transport moved from North Sea Zone to West Africa Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from West Africa Sea Zone to French West Africa
        2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from Red Sea Zone to East Compass Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Anglo Sudan Egypt to Kazakh S.S.R.
        1 fighter moved from Anglo Sudan Egypt to Caucasus

    Place Units - British
        1 fighter and 4 infantry placed in United Kingdom

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 23 PUs; end with 31 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 0.00
British regular : 0.33

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: British round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Classic League

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 1 fighter and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 8 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 fighter and 1 infantry moved from Kenya-Rhodesia to Anglo Sudan Egypt
        1 bomber moved from Italian East Africa to Anglo Sudan Egypt
        1 armour moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Zone
        1 armour and 1 transport moved from North Sea Zone to West Africa Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from West Africa Sea Zone to French West Africa
              British take French West Africa from Germans

    Combat - British
        Battle in Anglo Sudan Egypt
            British attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 armour and 1 infantry
                British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Anglo Sudan Egypt, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Anglo Sudan Egypt, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Anglo Sudan Egypt
                British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Anglo Sudan Egypt, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Anglo Sudan Egypt, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Anglo Sudan Egypt
                1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Anglo Sudan Egypt
            British win with 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
            Casualties for Germans: 1 armour and 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - British
        COMMENT: 2 UK on Russia TP
        1 armour moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 carrier, 2 fighters and 1 transport moved from North Sea Zone to West Africa Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from West Africa Sea Zone to French West Africa
        2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from Red Sea Zone to East Compass Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Anglo Sudan Egypt to Kazakh S.S.R.
        1 fighter moved from Anglo Sudan Egypt to Caucasus

    Place Units - British
        1 fighter and 4 infantry placed in United Kingdom

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 23 PUs; end with 31 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Kazakh S.S.R.: 1 bomber
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Novosibirsk: 1 bomber
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 0.00
British regular : 0.33

Savegame

If it’s not too late… UK bomb to Nov instead of Kazakh S.S.R…

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Classic League

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        2 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Yakut S.S.R.
        1 fighter moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Yakut S.S.R.
        2 fighters moved from Syria Jordan to Central Mediteranean Sea Zone

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Central Mediteranean Sea Zone
            Russians attack with 2 fighters
            Germans defend with 1 submarine
                Russians roll dice for 2 fighters in Central Mediteranean Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in Central Mediteranean Sea Zone
            Russians win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
        Battle in Yakut S.S.R.
            Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Yakut S.S.R.
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yakut S.S.R.
            Russians win, taking Yakut S.S.R. from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        1 fighter moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Novosibirsk
        2 fighters moved from Central Mediteranean Sea Zone to Caucasus
        3 armour moved from Finland Norway to Russia
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from North Sea Zone to West Africa Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from North Sea Zone to West Africa Sea Zone
        1 aaGun moved from Russia to Novosibirsk
        1 aaGun moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Russia
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Finland Norway to Karelia S.S.R.
        2 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Caucasus
        1 armour moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Russia

    Place Units - Russians
        6 infantry placed in Karelia S.S.R.
        3 infantry placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 27 PUs; end with 28 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : 0.33
Russians regular : -0.50

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: British round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Classic League

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 1 armour, 6 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 bomber moved from Novosibirsk to Germany
        1 armour moved from French West Africa to Anglo Sudan Egypt
              British take French Equatorial Africa from Germans
              British take Anglo Sudan Egypt from Germans
        1 armour moved from French West Africa to Libya
              British take Algeria from Germans
              British take Libya from Germans

    Combat - British
        Strategic bombing raid in Germany
            Bombing raid in Germany rolls: 4 and costs: 4 PUs.
            Bombing raid costs 4 PUs

    Non Combat Move - British
        1 bomber moved from Germany to Karelia S.S.R.
        2 infantry moved from West Africa Sea Zone to French West Africa
        1 carrier and 2 transports moved from West Africa Sea Zone to North Sea Zone
        4 infantry moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Zone
        4 infantry moved from North Sea Zone to Finland Norway
        1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to North Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Karelia S.S.R. to North Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from East Compass Sea Zone to South Australia Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from West Canada to West US
        1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Karelia S.S.R.

    Place Units - British
        1 transport placed in North Sea Zone
        1 armour and 6 infantry placed in United Kingdom

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 28 PUs; end with 28 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

@The_Good_Captain So Madagascar not an island and can’t save stranded fighters - fascinating. I did start liking the quirkiness of Classic some months ago. The subs withdrawing into a factory zone and causing the whole naval build to be destroyed was particularly fascinating.
(I know we’re playing we can build into the zone - a great adaptation)

Oh! I might have misunderstood someone, but

I thought you (normally) can’t build ships into an enemy occupied zone.
A player could build a navy, attack a sub that’s in the factory zone and fail, the sub submerges in the battle and then the player couldn’t place the navy.

Also, I was warned that if the building player unwittingly attacked a sub that was in a zone next to the factory zone and the defender withdrew the sub to the factory zone that again that navy could not be built.

Pages 11 and 21, I would think not being able to place a navy would not even be super rare. I’m posting this only because you know the rules front and back and I’m trying to understand them