Larry Harris, G42, Russia In China, Question

@mikemikemike
the sea battle occurs before the amphibious assualt.

If you want to kill the transport… in a (very one-sided) naval battle, all naval units fight together+any air. You don’t get to pick units. Only air has that option.

Thus, no bombard.

The Germans have no destroyer present, therefore the defending air units can not hit the sub, and of course the sub can never hit planes. Think of it in terms of the combined arms rule, air units can only hit subs if they are combined with at least 1 participating destroyer, the difference with this particular combined arms is that it works while attacking and defending. In the scenario that you described, the sub would destroy the remaining transport without rolling and the defending fighters can do nothing.

@Celvus:

Thanks for the quick Answer Elrood! :-)

I Still find this Rule a little Strange. So the Allied Fraction just stands beside the Sea Fight watching the Battle and drinking some Beer?.  :|

Well, if that helps, imagine a vast seazone where the UK DD and Russian Sub are not in some battle group but actually far away from each other.  :-)

@Celvus:

Anyway since we play by the Rules we have to respect that. :-)

Good choice, there is nothing against house rules, but I would not mess with something integral like that. The befits of mixed fleets are already crazily good.

for example. UK / US fleets mass in SZ109 or 110. You think Berlin is save since you have a DD in SZ112 and few troops in Denmark, and have not many troops in Berlin (may be even none).
Then:
US fleet takes Denmark and after that UK goes into baltic sea and attacks Berlin, killing Germany most likely with that move. - Axis have no way to interact between US and UK moving… so its really nasty.

That happened to more than one inexperienced player, since it takes some time to “see” these possible scenarios.  :wink:
Just to let you see the possibilities

YES I would certainly say so.

@Uncrustable:

US can collect income on france tts ???

Where have i been lol ?

Yep, so can the UK, Anz, or Russia. They have to liberate them from the axis though. If the axis don’t take them from the French, then the allies can’t liberate them to collect while Paris is in axis hands.

BTW with alpha rules when Paris is liberated, the French also get to immediately drop 12 IPCs worth of units (it’s 4 inf w/OOB) on the tt of France (Paris). They only get to do this once, the first time Paris is liberated. So if the US liberates Paris, the French get to place these units immediately during the US turn right after the US wins the battle. If the UK is also ready to reinforce Paris with more units/air on their turn the allies may be able to hold it, depending on how prepared the Euro axis are.

@Krieghund:

Yes.

thanks!

@M7574:

Play as the allies vs a good axis player.  Learn from his tactics.  Modify them to suit your play-style.
People call tell you what to do in the forums, but playing against them will show you HOW.

I never thought of that before. I always like being the Axis though. It’s challenging, and frustrating. But I love it!

@Gargantua:

The trick to beating Russia is to go in HARD and FAST,  SHOCK and AWE.

This is true, and this AAG40 game I’m playing right now (OOB rules) I made that mistake. I waited to take Russia, and focused on Frace G1, and then taking UK G2, G3, AND G5. BIG mistake. Yes the money is nice, but do it for 2 turns tops.

If any of you try that with OOB rules, fill your transports, and focus the rest of your money on Operation Barbarosa (if I spelled that correctly).

~MadPup~

@MarkVIIIMarc:

To clarify: if i attack a territory and suffer greater losses than i expected i can move additional land units in during my movement phase to help defend it?

Yes that is right. So long as you won the battle you can move in further troops to defend it on your non-combat move. Aircraft, however are excluded as they must land in a territory that has been controlled by you or an ally since the beginning of your turn.

@MarkVIIIMarc:

Also, a transport can not move then pick up a unit, the transport must start off in the same sea zone as the units it intends to load?

Actually a transport may move, pick up troops and either drop them off or move again and drop them off. Once a transport unloads though it must stay in that sea zone until the following turn.