Forgot about the bloodshed in Yunnan.
Scramble from Queensland or Guam?
League Global 1940 2nd edition non-ranked Team Tournament
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Would be great to get at least another couple players, so we could have 4 teams.
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Yeah we’re not starting with less than 8. We’ll get them
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@Stucifer said in League Global 1940 2nd edition non-ranked Team Tournament:
I have picked @mikawagunichi’s brain quite a bit and played live with him. @crockett36 fancy playing this team round with me?
Yes, of course!
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You are now paired up on the signup sheet.
We have 6 so far and will not start until we have at least 8.I’ll wait a little longer before I try recruiting.
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Posted siren’s call on League discussion thread just now
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While waiting for 2 more participants, I’d like you to consider my proposed starting setup for a 2v2
Allies are further handicapped by lack of coordination.
Not that we are trying for a perfectly balanced game, it’s about the fun, not the end result so much.In a 1v1, players tend to bid between 40 and 60 IPCs to add to the board for the Allies.
Slow down the Japs, make it a little more realistic, maybe
I think we can take offfighter removed from Okinawa,
tactical removed from JapanAdd
Infantry to Chahar
Infantry to Anhwe
Infantry to Hopei
Infantry to IndiaAnd Europe handicap
Add
DD to 101
Infantry to Egypt
DD to 91
DD to 110
Transport to SAF (71)
Infantry to Ukraine
Infantry to Russia
Fighter to East Poland - Germany destroyed 2000 planes in a single day, June 22, 1941. The game starts in 1940.That’s 83 if you’re counting, but not where any player would put a 83 bid, so is not as powerful as a discretionary strategic 83 but strong enough to reasonably balance the sides.
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Here’s how AI synthesized my setup ideas, just for fun
🛡 G40 2v2 Variant: Coordinated Resistance
A historical balance tweak for two-player teams in Axis & Allies Global 1940
📜 Purpose
This variant addresses inherent coordination challenges in Allied 2v2 team formats. Since Germany and Japan benefit from more focused strategic alignment, this proposal introduces modest unit boosts for the Allies to reflect historical deployments, improve survivability, and sustain competitive pacing.
🎲 Setup Adjustments
Each change adheres to the “1 unit per territory/zone” guideline.
🌊 Pacific Theater
Nation Territory/Zone Unit Change Historical Rationale China Szechwan +1 AA Simulate Flying China Hunan +1 AA tiger devastation of China Shensi +1 AA Japanese air China Chahar +1 infantry Represents local resistance and rearguard China Anhwe +1 infantry Delays Axis advance toward central China China Hopei +1 infantry Strengthens northern front line UK (Pacific) India +1 infantry Helps sustain Burma Road defense 🌍 Europe Theater
Nation Territory/Zone Unit Change Historical Rationale UK SZ 101 +1 destroyer Bolsters Atlantic convoy defense UK Egypt +1 infantry Reinforces defense against Italy UK SZ 91 +1 destroyer Slows Italian fleet mobility UK SZ 110 +1 destroyer Adds protection vs German naval threat UK SZ 71 (S. Africa) +1 transport Enhances reach into East Africa / India USSR Ukraine +1 infantry Bolsters defense on Dnieper front USSR Russia (Moscow) +1 infantry Strategic depth for capital defense USSR East Poland +1 fighter Reflects pre-Barbarossa Soviet air presence
🧠 Gameplay Rationale
- Historical Anchoring: Each unit placement references plausible pre-June 1940 deployments or logistical positioning.
- Balance Correction: Enhances Allied survivability without nullifying Axis initiative.
- Team Dynamics: Supports distributed Allied coordination across two players, mitigating decision friction.
📝 Submission Notes
This variant was inspired by recurring imbalances in competitive 2v2 matchups and aligns with existing tournament bid frameworks (40–60 IPCs typical). It’s designed to remain compatible with official rules, requiring only setup tweaks rather than structural overhaul.
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Very cool concept. I had always just thought we’d do the tried and tested bidding for Allies, but open to new ideas. How were you envisioning sides be chosen, coin flip? Or do we run it 2x, each team plays 2 games swapping sides the 2nd time?
My initial thought on the setup, is subtracting the 2 planes from Japan may have a bigger impact than anticipated. Japan usually just needs to buy Carriers to defend the Pacific, but lacking the planes will be costlier early on.
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I love it. Doesn’t wreck the initial Allied disaster. Yet strengthens operation ricochet.
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The current bid system is stale, historically inaccurate and spoils the brilliance of Larry’s set.
I have issues with Larry’s set up. Japan is really on a 41 war footing. Germany should be completely concentrated on taking France and not ending up in a 4 year stalemate. France could be strengthened with 6 more infantry, 1 fighter, 1 anti-aircraft. 93 with a sub.
I love what you did Gamerman01!
The other possibility 10 more infantry for Russia, 6 more China. 6 more Britian (2 in London, Africa, Asia).
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Thanks guys!! Means a lot
I’d say coin flip unless one side objects, then they could bid starting off that set up I put out there, but it’s not a very competitive little tournament so coin flip is encouraged.
@Booper You are not the first to tell me that Japan needs every single plane they start with so you are in very good company! (I mean in times past, not others commenting on this tournament setup)
If I don’t take away those planes, I’d be adding about 20 more to the Allies, albeit not necessarily in the most strategic spots. Some people hate the idea of taking anything off the board for starting setups, I understand.
I am not one of those people. But if you’d like to propose an alternative to two less Japanese planes (they have like 19 + 2 bombers?!) I did put this out there for ideas.
Thank you for being patient, guys, we’ll get 2 more and then could start. I’m not in the arm-twisting phase yet. Feel free to recruit.
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@gamerman01 i’m from Allied headquarters so take the planes
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I wanted to take more.
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Hey I’m not too sure whats going on here but I would be willing to play in any team games! I do not have any teammates right now though.
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OK, I can add you to the sign up and if you’re in, we only need 1 more
Don’t worry about a pairing, you’ll get it
Although we could start and the one side of the bracket just wait,
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Oysteilo and mikawagunichi are not paired yet, and we’ll have one more player before we start, so 3 possibilities for each of you
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@gamerman01 said in League Global 1940 2nd edition non-ranked Team Tournament:
Thanks guys!! Means a lot
I’d say coin flip unless one side objects, then they could bid starting off that set up I put out there, but it’s not a very competitive little tournament so coin flip is encouraged.
@Booper You are not the first to tell me that Japan needs every single plane they start with so you are in very good company! (I mean in times past, not others commenting on this tournament setup)
If I don’t take away those planes, I’d be adding about 20 more to the Allies, albeit not necessarily in the most strategic spots. Some people hate the idea of taking anything off the board for starting setups, I understand.
I am not one of those people. But if you’d like to propose an alternative to two less Japanese planes (they have like 19 + 2 bombers?!) I did put this out there for ideas.
How about giving China a tac, instead of taking the 2 planes away from Japan. I think this would be (A) more historically accurate, as there were enough Flying Tigers to fill an aircraft carrier (represented in game by 2 planes), (B) give China more offensive options (planes fight in 2 separate battles or together), and © be something never before played in OOB!
Just a thought - open to feedback as well.
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Fascinating idea,
When I looked at the flying tigers years ago, the thing is they didn’t find in coordination with Chinese infantry, they were more strategic bombers going after bases and such.
Looking it up again now,
Mission and Combat Role
The Flying Tigers were tasked with:- Defending Chinese cities from Japanese air raids, especially Kunming and Chongqing.
- Escorting supply convoys along the Burma Road.
- Engaging Japanese aircraft in tactical air battles using hit-and-run diving attacks, exploiting the P-40’s speed and durability.
Combat Achievements
- First combat: December 20, 1941, over Kunming—downed 9 Japanese bombers.
- Total enemy aircraft destroyed: 296 in just seven months of combat.
- Losses: Only 14 AVG pilots were lost in combat during that period.
Looks like they kicked butt, but they weren’t used in coordination with Chinese ground forces and their targets weren’t Japanese ground units.
Looks like I could make an argument to take the flying tigers off the board, and another Japanese fighter along with it?!You can tell an American designed A&A sometimes lol
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How about this alternative - sprinkle 4 AA guns for China - say in Szechuan, Yunnan, Hunan, and Shensi.
This could result in some J1 losses of Japanese planes, and we wouldn’t need to take away the Japanese fighters.
For some reason my preference is not to subtract from the initial setup, but to add to it.
Just brainstorming some ideas here. Fun discussion!
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I think @gamerman01 suggested set up favours allies. Seems that way, but i also thought a bid was required for axis in BM3/4 when it first came out. Gamerman01 knows what he is talking about so lets just go with his set up. I encourage that, but all discussions are fun and ood to read,
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