@wizmark
bid: uk fighter scotland, ss 111,91,98
russia fighter moscow, fighter volgograd
china inf yunnan
$2 russia
scramble decision.
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TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 28
Combat Move - Italians
Turn Complete - Italians
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 28
Purchase Units - ANZAC
ANZAC buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 5 PUs;
Combat Move - ANZAC
Non Combat Move - ANZAC
1 submarine moved from 82 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone
2 submarines moved from 83 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from Queensland to Solomon Islands
Place Units - ANZAC
2 infantry placed in New South Wales
Turn Complete - ANZAC
Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 5
Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 64 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,3
Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 55 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,1,6,3,4,1,1,4,1,1,3,2,2,5,4,2,6
ANZAC collect 5 PUs (5 lost to blockades); end with 10 PUs
Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs
Combat Move - French
Non Combat Move - French
1 cruiser moved from 99 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
Turn Complete - French
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
TripleA Move Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 29
Research Technology - Germans
Purchase Units - Germans
Germans buy 1 armour, 21 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Germans
2 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria
2 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
3 fighters moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
2 fighters moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
3 infantry moved from Austria to Northern Italy
2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Albania
1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Northern Belarus
Germans take Northern Belarus from Russians
1 armour moved from Northern Belarus to Southern Belarus
15 artilleries and 66 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Slovakia Hungary to Ukraine
2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Slovakia Hungary to Bulgaria
2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Slovakia Hungary to Albania
2 fighters moved from Austria to Southern Italy
2 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Slovakia Hungary to Southern Italy
1 fighter moved from Germany to Northern Italy
2 fighters moved from Western Germany to Northern Italy
2 tactical_bombers moved from Slovakia Hungary to Northern Italy
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Slovakia Hungary to Northern Italy
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Slovakia Hungary to Southern Italy
1 bomber moved from Slovakia Hungary to Leningrad
1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Leningrad
1 infantry moved from Archangel to Leningrad
Any scrambles?
none. thanks
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 29
Research Technology - Germans
Purchase Units - Germans
Germans buy 1 armour, 21 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Germans
2 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria
2 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
3 fighters moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
2 fighters moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
3 infantry moved from Austria to Northern Italy
2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Albania
1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Northern Belarus
Germans take Northern Belarus from Russians
1 armour moved from Northern Belarus to Southern Belarus
15 artilleries and 66 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Slovakia Hungary to Ukraine
2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Slovakia Hungary to Bulgaria
2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Slovakia Hungary to Albania
2 fighters moved from Austria to Southern Italy
2 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Slovakia Hungary to Southern Italy
1 fighter moved from Germany to Northern Italy
2 fighters moved from Western Germany to Northern Italy
2 tactical_bombers moved from Slovakia Hungary to Northern Italy
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Slovakia Hungary to Northern Italy
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Slovakia Hungary to Southern Italy
1 bomber moved from Slovakia Hungary to Leningrad
1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Leningrad
1 infantry moved from Archangel to Leningrad
Combat - Germans
Battle in Northern Italy
Germans attack with 4 fighters, 3 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
Americans defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 2 infantry
Germans roll dice for 4 fighters, 3 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Northern Italy, round 2 : 7/10 hits, 4.50 expected hits
Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Northern Italy, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Northern Italy
2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Northern Italy
Germans win, taking Northern Italy from Americans with 4 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
Battle in Southern Italy
Germans attack with 5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers
Americans defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter, 1 harbour and 3 infantry
Germans roll dice for 5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers in Southern Italy, round 2 : 9/10 hits, 5.83 expected hits
Americans roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Southern Italy, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
3 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in Southern Italy
Germans win with 5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 19
Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter and 3 infantry
Battle in Albania
Germans attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
Americans defend with 1 infantry
Germans roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Albania, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.67 expected hits
Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Albania, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Albania
Germans win, taking Albania from Americans with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
Battle in Bulgaria
Germans attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
Americans defend with 1 infantry
Germans roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Bulgaria, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 2.67 expected hits
Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Bulgaria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Bulgaria
Germans win, taking Bulgaria from Americans with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
Battle in Southern Belarus
Germans attack with 1 armour, 15 artilleries and 66 infantry
Russians defend with 1 infantry
Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 15 artilleries and 66 infantry in Southern Belarus, round 2 : 19/82 hits, 19.00 expected hits
Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern Belarus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Southern Belarus
Germans win, taking Southern Belarus from Russians with 1 armour, 15 artilleries and 66 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Battle in Ukraine
Germans attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
Russians defend with 1 infantry
Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Ukraine, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine
Germans win, taking Ukraine from Russians with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Battle in Leningrad
Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
Russians defend with 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Leningrad, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Leningrad, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Leningrad, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Leningrad, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Leningrad
Germans win, taking Leningrad from Russians with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
Germans attack with 5 fighters and 3 infantry
Americans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
Germans roll dice for 5 fighters and 3 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 2/8 hits, 3.00 expected hits
Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Normandy Bordeaux
Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Americans with 5 fighters and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
Non Combat Move - Germans
2 infantry moved from Austria to Yugoslavia
2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Northern Belarus
2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus
2 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus
1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Slovakia Hungary
1 infantry moved from Karelia to Vyborg
1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Slovakia Hungary
2 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Eastern Poland
2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Bulgaria to Slovakia Hungary
2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Albania to Slovakia Hungary
4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Northern Italy to Slovakia Hungary
5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from Southern Italy to Austria
3 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 113 Sea Zone to 128 Sea Zone
2 marines moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone
1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 2 marines moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
2 marines moved from 115 Sea Zone to Western Germany
1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 112 Sea Zone
1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Western Germany
1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
2 infantry moved from Western Germany to France
7 carriers, 1 destroyer and 4 transports moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
2 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
10 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
2 artilleries moved from Austria to Slovakia Hungary
9 infantry moved from Austria to Slovakia Hungary
2 infantry moved from Western Germany to Austria
1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Austria
1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
1 infantry moved from Western Germany to France
1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Austria
Place Units - Germans
1 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Western Germany
10 infantry placed in Germany
8 infantry placed in Western Germany
3 infantry placed in United Kingdom
Turn Complete - Germans
Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 6
Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,3,1,5,6,1
Germans collect 58 PUs (6 lost to blockades); end with 58 PUs
Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs
Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs
Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : -2.67
Russians regular : -0.33
Germans regular : 6.17
TripleA Move Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory
Game History
Round: 29
Purchase Units - Russians
Russians buy 10 artilleries and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Russians
2 infantry moved from Kursk to Ukraine
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Ukraine
1 armour, 19 artilleries and 63 infantry moved from Western India to Eastern India
11 armour and 8 mech_infantrys moved from Baluchistan to Eastern India
3 fighters moved from Iraq to Eastern India
scramble ?
Perhaps you might allow the German fast to be in India? It was the intent, but forgot to make the move after the scramble decision.
normally i would, and you know from all our history playing together that i would. however, i too had a very similar, equally bad blunder a few rounds ago and i was pretty clear i fully intended to send my russian figs but totally glitched when i woke up and rushed the turn before jumping into my work meetings. i got no forgiveness on that, so apparently this will be a game of blunders…
@axis-dominion You didn’t ask for it to be fixed, and that was after dice were rolled. And after that mistake, we both continued with our typical edits without asking. Drawing the line here is inconsistent, as you said.
i didn’t ask but i was very upset about the blunder and stated what my intentions were clearly, i was expecting you might volunteer to offer me a second chance without me having to ask or beg lol. yes dice were rolled but that battle was very inconsequential. and realizing the mistake after a scramble decision request is posted as in this case is very much equal to a dice roll, in terms of being able to take back and redo or edit. i blundered big and you jumped on it, and now we’re even. there’s no way you’d take india any time soon otherwise and this would be a different game right now.
It is not up to me to offer the edit because I’m not the one making the move. This edit was also not simply a move, it involved undoing an attack or doing it with a different amount of units, the details of which need to be decided by that nation’s player.
We are not even, because I have not refused an edit.
Also I didn’t “jump on it”. I asked for a bogus scramble order so that no dice are rolled before you see the situation.
again from my perspective, it is a very similar situation. of course i would want a rollback, i’ve invested countless hours only to make such an obvious mistake, if i didn’t want a rollback why would i even mention what my intention was? i didn’t think i needed to ask explicitly, and was disappointed that you didn’t even offer.
earlier in the game before my obvious blunder, when you left your two tps vulnerable to an easy sub snipe, i had the courtesy to ask you if that was intentional, and if it was, i was very willing to offer you an edit, even tho a whole turn had gone by…
one thing i’m willing to do, if you’re up for it, is rollback to that russian turn and allow me to redo it. that would cancel both blunders and we move forward from there.
otherwise. a blunder for a blunder, and i think we should get your scramble decision and move on.
Let’s just scrap the game.
sounds good to me
@axis-dominion FWIW all the recent SL games had our wheels turning and @Stucifer and I are in the middle of a test game where Axis force SL despite max turtling by London. 19 inf bought between UK 1+2, used TP from 112 -->109 to kill 2 German units dumped in Scotland. No scrambles, kept all air in London and brought up the fig from Gib. Here are the odds on the SL, and this is with a somewhat ridiculous 13 TPs:
And with a tac bomber added in that was lost on G1:
So with average dice and massive investment in TPs, they still have to kill 2 planes to take London with 1 land unit. And Russian will be a juggernaut in a game like that.
Pardon the thread invasion. I have been summoned and peeked at page 15 discussion of Sealion.
@axis-dominion I opted not to SL (at least this round 😈) in our game as my odds if you threw everything + the kitchen sink into defending London I was at around 30%
Mentioned to @mikawagunichi that for a stronger defense of London he had to move the carrier to 94 like you did in our game, but he’s trying to see if holding Calcutta using the Egypt planes sets him back too far. Since London fell I think it did, although UK Pacific will be healthy for a long time.
I think a SL-dominant meta would shift Axis bid lower if it continues to be difficult to counter and win against as Allies. Especially at an even playing level
Clarifying that I only pointed the carrier to 94 out when I was mulling over how bad my odds for London are in my game with AD. Your positioning in our game is excellent to prevent a SL. It is by dint of dice that allows a good player to challenge a great player like you or Adam and have a chance