L25 PTV Adam514 (Axis+14) vs axis-dominion (Allies)

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 28

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 28

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 3 artilleries, 2 fighters, 12 infantry, 3 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        2 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria
        2 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
        3 fighters moved from Northern Belarus to Romania
        3 fighters moved from Romania to Bulgaria
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 fighter moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
        3 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
        3 fighters moved from 99 Sea Zone to Northern Italy
        2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
        1 fighter moved from Greece to Bulgaria
        2 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 27 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
        1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 27 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 50 Sea Zone to Solomon Islands
        1 destroyer moved from 27 Sea Zone to 65 Sea Zone
        4 fighters moved from Queensland to 65 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 27 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 27 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to 50 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Southeast Mexico to 50 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Southeast Mexico to 50 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Northern Belarus to Bulgaria

    Combat - Americans
        Battle in Northern Italy
            Americans attack with 6 fighters and 2 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 6 fighters and 2 infantry in Northern Italy, round 2 : 4/8 hits, 3.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Italy, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Northern Italy
            Americans win, taking Northern Italy from Germans with 6 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
            Americans attack with 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
            Germans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 5/8 hits, 3.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Normandy Bordeaux
                2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Normandy Bordeaux
            Americans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Germans with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
        Battle in 50 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters, 1 submarine, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport
            Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 50 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport in 50 Sea Zone, round 2 : 5/7 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 50 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 50 Sea Zone
            Americans win with 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters, 1 submarine, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
        Battle in 65 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 1 destroyer and 4 fighters
            Japanese defend with 1 submarine
                Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer and 4 fighters in 65 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 65 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 65 Sea Zone
            Americans win, taking 65 Sea Zone from Japanese with 1 destroyer and 4 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
        Battle in Bulgaria
            Americans attack with 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 2 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 2 infantry in Bulgaria, round 2 : 1/7 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Bulgaria, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Bulgaria
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bulgaria
            Americans win, taking Bulgaria from Germans with 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Solomon Islands

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 27 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 50 Sea Zone to Solomon Islands
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Southeast Mexico to 66 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 66 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 50 Sea Zone to Solomon Islands
        2 carriers moved from 66 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 66 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 27 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 50 Sea Zone to Queensland
        1 fighter moved from 50 Sea Zone to Queensland
        1 fighter moved from 50 Sea Zone to Queensland
        3 submarines moved from 66 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
        3 carriers moved from 66 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
        3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Southeast Mexico to 50 Sea Zone
        3 artilleries moved from Iraq to 82 Sea Zone
        3 infantry moved from Baluchistan to 82 Sea Zone
        3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 3 transports moved from 82 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone
        7 carriers, 2 destroyers and 5 submarines moved from 82 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone
        3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Iraq to 40 Sea Zone
        2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Iraq to Baluchistan
        5 infantry moved from Baluchistan to Western India
        1 artillery moved from Baluchistan to Western India
        3 infantry moved from Egypt to 100 Sea Zone
        3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 100 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone
        3 infantry moved from 82 Sea Zone to Baluchistan
        3 fighters moved from Western United States to 50 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from British Guiana to 90 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 90 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 104 Sea Zone to Eastern United States
        1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 99 Sea Zone
        1 battleship and 3 cruisers moved from 99 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
        4 marines moved from Southern France to 95 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 3 cruisers and 4 marines moved from 95 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
        4 marines moved from 94 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        2 fighters moved from Greece to Gibraltar
        1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to Gibraltar
        2 transports moved from 99 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Southern France to 95 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries moved from Southern France to 95 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 95 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        5 carriers moved from 99 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
        3 fighters moved from Northern Italy to 94 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Southern France to 95 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Algeria
        3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
        2 fighters moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
        1 fighter moved from Bulgaria to Southern Italy
        1 bomber moved from Bulgaria to Southern France
        1 destroyer moved from 104 Sea Zone to 66 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 11 Sea Zone to 66 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 66 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 66 Sea Zone to Southeast Mexico
        4 transports moved from 99 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 99 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 65 Sea Zone to Queensland
        2 fighters moved from 65 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 65 Sea Zone to Queensland
        3 fighters moved from Bulgaria to Greece
        2 tactical_bombers moved from Northern Belarus to 99 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Northern Belarus to Rostov

    Place Units - Americans
        3 submarines placed in 104 Sea Zone
        3 artilleries placed in Egypt
        Americans undo move 2.
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Iraq
        2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Egypt
        3 infantry placed in Greece
        3 infantry placed in Southern Italy
        3 infantry placed in Southern France
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western United States
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Eastern United States

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 108 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,5
        Americans collect 75 PUs; end with 76 PUs
        Trigger Americans 10 Presence In Axis Capital: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 81 PUs
        Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 86 PUs
        Trigger Americans 6 Western Europe Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 91 PUs
        Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 101 PUs
        Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 106 PUs
        Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 111 PUs

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese
        2 infantry moved from Hopei to Szechwan
        1 fighter moved from Kansu to Szechwan

    Combat - Chinese
        Battle in Szechwan
            Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Szechwan
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Szechwan
            Chinese win, taking Szechwan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        20 artilleries and 13 infantry moved from Hopei to Tsinghai
        1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Tsinghai
        1 infantry moved from Kansu to Tsinghai

    Place Units - Chinese
        3 infantry placed in Tsinghai

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 9 PUs; end with 9 PUs

    Combat Move - British

    Non Combat Move - British
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Queensland: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Southeast Mexico to 66 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 66 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 50 Sea Zone to Solomon Islands
        1 carrier and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 99 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 99 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser and 2 transports moved from 99 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to Solomon Islands
        1 fighter moved from Queensland to 40 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 50 Sea Zone: 2 fighters
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Queensland: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Egypt: 1 artillery
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Egypt: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 104 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 11 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
        EDIT: Changing PUs for Americans from 111 to 110
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0.50
Americans regular : 3.17
Japanese regular : -0.17
Germans regular : 0.67

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 28

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 28

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 submarine moved from 82 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone
        2 submarines moved from 83 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Queensland to Solomon Islands

    Place Units - ANZAC
        2 infantry placed in New South Wales

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 5
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 64 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,3
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 55 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,1,6,3,4,1,1,4,1,1,3,2,2,5,4,2,6
        ANZAC collect 5 PUs (5 lost to blockades); end with 10 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs

    Combat Move - French

    Non Combat Move - French
        1 cruiser moved from 99 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

none. thanks

TripleA Move Summary: Russians round 29

TripleA Move Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 29

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 10 artilleries and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        2 infantry moved from Kursk to Ukraine
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Ukraine
        1 armour, 19 artilleries and 63 infantry moved from Western India to Eastern India
        11 armour and 8 mech_infantrys moved from Baluchistan to Eastern India
        3 fighters moved from Iraq to Eastern India

Savegame

scramble ?

normally i would, and you know from all our history playing together that i would. however, i too had a very similar, equally bad blunder a few rounds ago and i was pretty clear i fully intended to send my russian figs but totally glitched when i woke up and rushed the turn before jumping into my work meetings. i got no forgiveness on that, so apparently this will be a game of blunders…

i didn’t ask but i was very upset about the blunder and stated what my intentions were clearly, i was expecting you might volunteer to offer me a second chance without me having to ask or beg lol. yes dice were rolled but that battle was very inconsequential. and realizing the mistake after a scramble decision request is posted as in this case is very much equal to a dice roll, in terms of being able to take back and redo or edit. i blundered big and you jumped on it, and now we’re even. there’s no way you’d take india any time soon otherwise and this would be a different game right now.

again from my perspective, it is a very similar situation. of course i would want a rollback, i’ve invested countless hours only to make such an obvious mistake, if i didn’t want a rollback why would i even mention what my intention was? i didn’t think i needed to ask explicitly, and was disappointed that you didn’t even offer.

earlier in the game before my obvious blunder, when you left your two tps vulnerable to an easy sub snipe, i had the courtesy to ask you if that was intentional, and if it was, i was very willing to offer you an edit, even tho a whole turn had gone by…

one thing i’m willing to do, if you’re up for it, is rollback to that russian turn and allow me to redo it. that would cancel both blunders and we move forward from there.

otherwise. a blunder for a blunder, and i think we should get your scramble decision and move on.

sounds good to me

@axis-dominion FWIW all the recent SL games had our wheels turning and @Stucifer and I are in the middle of a test game where Axis force SL despite max turtling by London. 19 inf bought between UK 1+2, used TP from 112 -->109 to kill 2 German units dumped in Scotland. No scrambles, kept all air in London and brought up the fig from Gib. Here are the odds on the SL, and this is with a somewhat ridiculous 13 TPs:

And with a tac bomber added in that was lost on G1:

So with average dice and massive investment in TPs, they still have to kill 2 planes to take London with 1 land unit. And Russian will be a juggernaut in a game like that.

Pardon the thread invasion. I have been summoned and peeked at page 15 discussion of Sealion.

@axis-dominion I opted not to SL (at least this round 😈) in our game as my odds if you threw everything + the kitchen sink into defending London I was at around 30%

Mentioned to @mikawagunichi that for a stronger defense of London he had to move the carrier to 94 like you did in our game, but he’s trying to see if holding Calcutta using the Egypt planes sets him back too far. Since London fell I think it did, although UK Pacific will be healthy for a long time.

I think a SL-dominant meta would shift Axis bid lower if it continues to be difficult to counter and win against as Allies. Especially at an even playing level