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@azpathfinder said in IC in France Liberated by US - Upgrade?:

Can the US upgrade the factory in Normandy to a major IC and keep control of it (until Paris is liberated, at which point it would become a French IC)? Thereby allowing the US to build 10 … or are they restricted to building 3?

Rulebook Europe 1940.2 page 27:
“The industrial complex to be upgraded must be located on an originally controlled (not
captured) territory that you have controlled since the beginning of your turn and that has an IPC value of 3 or higher.”

Normandy Bordeaux - originally controlled by France - has an IPC value of only 2.
So two reasons why US can’t do what you intend.

@azpathfinder said in IC in France Liberated by US - Upgrade?:

Please only provide answers that support my opinion, because the other side (who also reads this forum) is filled with a bunch of cheaters and hooligans.

I can’t figure out which side seems to know the respective rules however.
So - sorry - just in case your opinion was against the rules. :wink:

cc: @SuperbattleshipYamato

Gliven,

––There’s no need for any apology. We simply misunderstood each other. Have a good day.

Respectfully,
“Tall Paul”

What I like, for turn order, is the following:

Germany
Russia
Japan
United States
China (order is important rarely, but kill the issue NOW)
Italy
United Kingdom (all one power)
Australia/France

To solve the Italian issue with fleet deals:
-1 Destroyer Italian
-1 Transport Italian
-1 Submarine Italian
Move Alexandrian fleet to Suez Canal (east of Egypt, not north)
Move the Gibraltan fleet to SZ 91
Move the French fleet to SZ 87

This ends the threat to the British fleet by an early Italy move, saves the Italian fleet so they are a threat to Africa, and does not suicide the French fleet for no real game purpose.  The fleets can still engage, the British/French can always move into the Med if they want (but Italy should get one round of the NO) and Italy being down a transport can stop it, but cannot take all of N. Africa (for instance) they’re moves are limited other ways.

Also, this kills the whole issue with a dead nation having a turn of their own.  Just dump them on the Australian player as a semi-useless nation (they have units left, but no purchases/builds) so you are not holding up an entire game JUST so France can say “nah, I don’t want to do anything.”

I would agree - capture of London on G1 is a physical impossibility.  British and French cruisers in SZ112 block the Kriegsmarine from reaching the UK and the paratrooper rule requires additional ground attack.

No.  The two UK economies operate independently of one another, so only the Europe economy IPCs would go to Germany.  India would continue to collect and spend IPCs.

Calvinhobbesliker, kcdzim and Ruanek (welcome, Ruanek!) are all correct, with one exception.  Subs may make a noncombat movement into a sea zone that contains an enemy destroyer - they just can’t continue moving after they enter such a sea zone.

Pretty much why I’ve always said that the roundels on the territories should all be from 1939, so you can simply place control markers according to the various starting set-ups.

For 1939 Netherlands should have the Dutch roundel as depicted, for a 1940 start it would be the inverted orange triangle symbol adopted to avoid confusion with the British and French red-white-blue colours.