Capitol captured, liberated, re-captured

@crockett36 said in If the object of the game was kill all Japanese capitol ship, how would you do it?,:

46 ipcs can be convoyed from the Japanese, assuming money islands and Phil, May, and Shan State.

Any competent Japanese navy can prevent that. Each sub raids on average 2 IPCs, say you want to raid Java, it takes 2 subs. A Japanese player will send a destroyer and a bunch of planes in making a profit

May be another good time to remind that all the territories on the Western Board belong to UK Atl econ

And all the territories on the Easter Board belong to UK pac economy….

The only exceptions to these rules are Canadian territories which belong to UK Atl and West India that belongs to UK pac…I think…The UK pac only has the $1 for Canada when you play the Pac board alone

Regardless of “whose” british units capture these territories.  Iraq, Persia etc always belong to UK Atl., for example.  If you want a MiC in Persia, only UK Atl can buy it or fund purchases there.

There is no such thing as a “UK Pac” or “UK Atl” unit, only separate UK $ and UK control.

They changed a lot of wording in alpha 3.9.
Even the Islands in the pacific are Axis controlled, while Germany has to contorl every place except Caucasus on its own. I think, this is not what “National Objectives” should be. It sounds more like “Axis Objectives”. I don’t like it. It should just be Japan/Italy/Germany not Axis.

(USSR does not get any Bonus for US/UK capturing axis terretories in Europe, and thats how it should be)

What I like, for turn order, is the following:

Germany
Russia
Japan
United States
China (order is important rarely, but kill the issue NOW)
Italy
United Kingdom (all one power)
Australia/France

To solve the Italian issue with fleet deals:
-1 Destroyer Italian
-1 Transport Italian
-1 Submarine Italian
Move Alexandrian fleet to Suez Canal (east of Egypt, not north)
Move the Gibraltan fleet to SZ 91
Move the French fleet to SZ 87

This ends the threat to the British fleet by an early Italy move, saves the Italian fleet so they are a threat to Africa, and does not suicide the French fleet for no real game purpose.  The fleets can still engage, the British/French can always move into the Med if they want (but Italy should get one round of the NO) and Italy being down a transport can stop it, but cannot take all of N. Africa (for instance) they’re moves are limited other ways.

Also, this kills the whole issue with a dead nation having a turn of their own.  Just dump them on the Australian player as a semi-useless nation (they have units left, but no purchases/builds) so you are not holding up an entire game JUST so France can say “nah, I don’t want to do anything.”

Interesting Wirkey…

The repsonse of course, is to have -demands- in return to whoever has requested egress through the canal :P

“when you move your troops from here to there, I will let your ships through.” :D  A deal is not a DOW!

@MacNaughton:

With all this going on, if Russia rolls a couple tanks and mech infantry through the North of China too, China will have the coastal territories liberated by turn 4 and Japan will be sunk by turn 7. I like it.

All this implies sleeping Axis…

I would agree - capture of London on G1 is a physical impossibility.  British and French cruisers in SZ112 block the Kriegsmarine from reaching the UK and the paratrooper rule requires additional ground attack.

Yes, they have to take it back, collect their income and then wait till next turn to spend it.

(Providing the Germans don’t take it again before their next turn.)