@timothy-gengarella all the forts and coastal guns in the zone are lost if you lose the territory
[Global 1940] Cruiser/Battleship Balancing
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It is general consensus that cruisers and battleships are overpriced in OOB and are rarely (if ever) advisable to purchase. Here is a thought, and I look forward to feedback:
As WWII developed, naval battles increasingly were dependent less on big naval guns and more on aircraft. Designs in ships (AAA armament especially) reflected this by the later years of the war, and I am hoping to incorporate that. Say that cruisers and battleships had limited AAA, in each battle they participate in rolling 1@1 before the rolling begins. I feel as though this is a good solution for two reasons:
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It reflects reality. When planes attacked warships, They had to wait until optimal range to release bombs/torpedoes, while the ships had been firing all throughout the approach.
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It adds value and dynamism to the ships. In every sixth battle in which one of these ships comes up against planes, it will theoretically score a preemptive hit. That comes out to a 1.7 IPC value every 6 battles, on average. 6 battles may be more than many of one’s ships fight in a game, so I feel as though this bonus ability is not overwhelming, especially since no navy will have more than a handful, save for rare occasions.
I know that, in some cases, this may be a large shift. Say Japan attacks the UK BB off Malaya (SZ 37) with a cruiser and 2 bombers. It is possible that, with this new ability, the BB could score a preemptive hit on a bomber and sink the cruiser in a lone round of combat, and should the remaining 2 Japanese units score only 1 hit, proceed to destroy the last bomber in the second round of combat.
I acknowledge that, in such cases, it may be over the top. But it does prove the point that such a tweak would force players to respect cruisers and BBs more, and it would give more reason for purchasing cruisers as screening ships. My apologies if this is in the wrong section of the forum.
Thoughts?
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Hi Tamer
Panther will probably move to House Rules but no biggie :)
I like it. I came up with something a little different for “Global 40 House Rules”.
I suggest waiting until RD 2 to activate it so it can’t break any early battles. I also went 1 @ 10 with 1 shot for the BB and 2 for the CA.
For simplicity, your idea of 1 each at 1 @ 6 probably better.
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P Panther moved this topic from Axis & Allies Global 1940
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I think it’s generallly a good idea to have cruisers and battleships be too expensive to reflect the real-life cost of building them.
I the name of historical accuracy, I think to simulate the battleships and cruisers already begun before the war, certain nations (mainly the UK and US) can buy 1 battleship and 2-3 cruisers 25% off.
The main trouble with this is that some will also want carriers to be included in this.
I think the anti-aircraft capability to cruisers and battleships doesn’t really make sense for the reasons you describe. I feel that the regular combat capabilities the ships have already reflect their anti-aircraft weaponry, and “[planes] wait[ing] until optimal range to release bombs/torpedoes, while the ships had been firing all throughout the approach” is too small and too tactical for an this game. In Global 1940, I feel one battle could actually be a series of battles (for example, the entire Solomon Islands campaign, despite being composed of dozens of seperate engagements by destroyers and cruisers, would likely simply be represented by some Japanese infantry and ships capturing the territory in 1 turn, then American forces destroying those units and liberating the Islands the next turn).
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Here is what you do. upload the AA rules of whatever version. then Chat Cpb or Genmini upload the rules and it will decide with brutal logic. The Battleship is priced correctly if its 20IPC and takes 2 hits and SB at 4. the only issue might be the Carrier could have different combat values, otherwise its good. Let AI solve your issue!
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